Dear Devs, you have made some rework for other civs but Ottomans dont get any love from you. This is the list for me for Ottomans.
1- Ottomans are more gunpowder civ than Rus and French but we dont see any gunpowder techs and units for Ottomans. This is shameful display.
2- Jans arent cav counter unit. They should counter maa. Jans are main bulk of Ottoman army. They get extra damage from archers that is so ridicilious. They suck in the game. They must be reworked.
3- Sipahi in the game should be Deli as their clothes are Deli clothes. Sipahi should be kapı kulu sipahi which are elite heavy cav unit for Ottomans.
4- Ottoman players are limited by military schools that is so annoying. There is no strategy there. Other civs players have good strategy but Ottoman player struggles to suprise opponent player. Ottomans are boring civ to play.
5- Ottomans should have new units like : Turkish horse archers, kapı kulu sipahi, abus gunner, Sultan or Grand Vizier like English’s King.
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Dont worry they will probably make a variant for us :D.
I think they shouldnt touch the janissary because they can make it worse.Horse archer can become a generic unit for civ with horse archer in real life maybe they can get a unique tech for each different civ.
Military schools are good but their price need to be lowered since they crate units slower.
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Well i dont agree with some of your points
- ottomans have 2 gunpowers units (jans and GB) and have a tech for the jans improving their dammages. It’s sufficient imo to call them gunpowers civ
2.i think jans counter cav IS a reference to the battle of where jans destroy magyars hussars
I think jans are good in the game where they are supposed to be good :protect the siege from the cav and they Can be really powerfull in age3.
I agree with your other point. I dont think they are boring to play but there have limited options all the gameplay focus on making military school making MAI to produce free siege push age3 with the first Mango and if fail fast imp to make deadly compo GB+jans+sipahis
I think they lacks diversity in gameplay and that could be resolve by buffing the other age3 landmarks to unlocks 3 uniques vizir points or something like that to add diversity
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The problem with Ottomans is they feel very strong doing just 2 strategies:
- Feudal archers push (now a bit nerfed after the patch)
- Imperial combo GB+Sipahi+Jans.
These two strategies are very very strong, but out of these strategies they lack of others strats, so they end up feeling very boring.
A user proposed a Jan rework who aims to make them better against regular units, remove their bonus against cav, and make them get a melee attack (or a weapon switch) to spear or something similar. This way they would continue being useful protecting siege, but more polivalent, and wouldn’t melt cavalry as they do now.
These change would make them more useful, and would nerf the GB+Jans+Sipahi combo probably, giving Otto’s other ways to play in imperial or castle age.
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i think Ottomans are good just the way they are right now.
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