The Polish-Lithuanian Union is only a proposal for a name for CIV, which would be an umbrella for the areas of the later PLC - a huge territory. The Polish civ would represent only the Polish nation, while the Polish-Lithuanian Union would represent the entire region. Such a civ could have Polish and Lithuanian units. Polish civ would be limited only to Poland.
I don’t want AoE 4 to repeat the civs problem of AoE 2 - it takes infinity of civs to please players. AoE 4 should have well thought-out umbrellas that focus only on the largest empires of a given region.
but for almost the whole of the Middle Ages Poland was independent it would be a historical mistake, also Lithuanians and Poles are 2 very different peoples. it would not only represent Poles but culturally the entire western Slavs, which is a huge space. if it was a new century
from the 15th century onwards, then we would be talking about the commonwealth and the union with Lithuania
… Kinda random factions wouldn’t you say? I would rather have Croatia be replaced by the Bulgarians (or Bulghars) and Ireland be replaced by the Scots…
Yes they are Random. I thought about it for like 5 seconds.
It was only to show the general direction. So people know what I mean with each given area.
Hum, personally I would replace the Kongolese with the Ghanaians and maybe the Swahili with the Somali. Other than that I think it’s good.
Even though my country is in here I don’t think these many factions in Iberia would fit for the first DLC… Also, Byzantines and no Italians (Venetians specifically) or Turks for a campaign around them?
I’ve had an idea for quite some time now of how to represent all of the Spanish kingdoms in the game as historically fitting as possible. So you’d basically have the Politician system from AoE3 (specifically the one for the US faction), but instead of states or politicians, you’d start as the Kingdom of Asturias and you’d choose a Royal Marriage from one of the other Iberian Kingdoms (except Portugal). So in age 2 you could choose between the Kingdom of Galicia, the Kingdom of Navarre or the Principality of Catalonia, in age 3 you’d choose between the Kingdom of León, the Crown of Castile and the Crown of Aragón and in age 4 you’d become Spain. Each choice would grant you either unique units, techs, buildings or a bonus to your units or economy.
Byzantines lead the other poll and here we see the Mediterranean leading, which makes sense.
But here The Americas are second while in the other poll only the Aztecs get decent votes, only a few people want the Inca and Maya back.
While the Japanese are very highly requested, East Asia gets the lowest number of votes.
What do you mean by “Berber States (Cordoba)” in mediterranean ?
Berber or Imazigh poeple, known as Numidians, Garamantes, Maures, … through History, are an ethnic group living in north africa. The most related medieval “empire” to them is the Fatimids (909-1171), which were a dynasty from berber origin, a strong medieval power known for their naval raid on christian navy.
Corboda is a muslim state in Iberia from the Ummayads Empire, which became independant when Ummayad Califat was dissolved and replaced by Abassids Califat. They are known for their architecture and science. They were conquered by the spanish kingdoms.
Barbary Corsairs / Barbary States of Alger, were Ottomans. It was vassal states of Ottomans Empire, founded by Ottomans corsairs in Algeria, with a famous navy of Pirates. They were a very big deal in the period covered by aoe 3.
so I guess you made a mismatch of really diffferent civilizations, which have different temporality, language, focus, geography, architectures, etc…
Regions which include multiple civs is different than a single civ that you want. Would you rather get one civ that you want along with others that you could care less for or go to another region where you would enjoy all the civs
Byzantines and vikings are an absolute must imo. And japanese, too.
And for later period, some italian civ like Milan or the Republic of Venice would be cool, and I insist in the discovery/conquest of the Americas thematic DLC with spanish and aztecs at least.