Which factions do you think should be added to Europe in RoR?

We can’t change the past (unless you invent a time machine that sends you straight into ES’ office :upside_down_face:) and tell the devs to change the nerrative ever since 1998’s RoR release or EVEN Yamato’s inclusion in the original release.

Romans are in so there’s nothing wrong with having the focus on the Roman empire area in AoE1 compared to AoE2 where it was already on the verge of destruction.


Yeah I would’ve loved a lot more focus on the Diadochi too! Still I’m very happy with the Pyrrhus campaign - genuinely my favourite of the bunch.

And don’t get me wrong: I also hugely enjoyed the Trajan campaign (and roman history in general), I just would like to see more content that’s taking place in a similar timeframe to the Sargon one. Or a campaign that focuses on the Lac Viet.

Well yes but that’s a deliberate choice: The content they included focuses on the rise of rome. They could’ve done something like the Conquerors where the new factions are a bit more spread out. I realize I am now critiquing decisions that were made 25 years ago but that’s basically what history is all about so I’m gonna stop :stuck_out_tongue: .


I think it would be interesting (and a no-brainer) to add European civs to RoR. Such candidates could be the Goths, Britons, Gauls, and maybe Franks. They should also consider adding the Huns and Scythians, though those aren’t European.

Honestly, though, I don’t really care who gets added as long as they eventually add the Israelites.

Hope they add Ishmaelites and Isaacites too.

Gauls or Celts. If I can make custom scenarios with Asterix and Obelix, i’ll be happy :V

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Yes, they can do both… otherwise Western and Northern Europe would only be represented by Rome… Gauls, Celts, Iberians, Germans, Norse and Scythians are missing…

It is because there are not many missions and battles in the 4th century, if they put historical battles and Aksum they could fill that temporary gap more…

Yes, I agree, so we can fill in the gaps in early Roman history (753-290 BC) (Romulus, the Roman monarchy, the founding of the Roman Republic, the Celtic invasion of Brenus and the Sack of Rome in 390 BC and the Samnite Wars prior to the Pyrrhic Wars) (some of this is already in the AoEO Roman campaign)…

Yes, inevitably in any campaign of the Iron Age you will have to face with or against Rome…

They can always do it later…

There is not so much information about events from that time…

This one


Do we know anything about them? From Wiki, all we have is essentially some Greek mythology and a bunch of coins and graffiti.

But why not Phrygians? They could easily represent Lydian (and other post-Hittite) cultures quite well. As a civ, they could be a mix between Greeks and Hit ittes perhaps? Definitely navy, but lose the chariot focus.

Lydia (Lydian: ‎𐤮𐤱𐤠𐤭𐤣𐤠, Śfarda; Aramaic: Lydia; Greek: Λυδία, Lȳdíā; Turkish: Lidya) was an Iron Age kingdom of western Asia Minor located generally east of ancient Ionia in the modern western Turkish provinces of Uşak, Manisa and inland Izmir. The ethnic group inhabiting this kingdom are known as the Lydians, and their language, known as Lydian, was a member of the Anatolian branch of the Indo-European language family. The capital of Lydia was Sardis.[1]

The Kingdom of Lydia existed from about 1200 BC to 546 BC. At its greatest extent, during the 7th century BC, it covered all of western Anatolia. In 546 BC, it became a province of the Achaemenid Persian Empire, known as Sparda in Old Persian. In 133 BC, it became part of the Roman province of Asia.

Lydia developed after the decline of the Hittite Empire in the 12th century BC. It may be a successor to the Hititas in the Iron Age…

The campaign may be from Croesus, its last king before being defeated by Cyrus the Great (who would be the protagonist of the Persian campaign)…


Croesus was born in 620 BC to the king Alyattes of Lydia and one of his queens, a Carian noblewoman whose name is still unknown. Croesus had at least one full sister, Aryenis, as well as a step-brother named Pantaleon, born from a Ionian Greek wife of Alyattes.[8][9]

Under his father’s reign, Croesus had been a governor of Adramyttium, which Alyattes had rebuilt as a centre of operations for military actions against the Cimmerians, a nomadic people from the Pontic steppe who had invaded Western Asia, and attacked Lydia over the course of several invasions during which they killed Alyattes’s great-grandfather Gyges, and possibly his grandfather Ardys and his father Sadyattes. As governor of Adramyttium, Croesus had to provide his father with Ionian Greek mercenaries for a military campaign in Caria.[10][11][8]

During Croesus’s tenure as governor of Adramyttium itself, a rivalry had developed between him and his step-brother Pantaleon, who might have been intended by Alyattes to be his successor. Following Alyattes’s death in 585 BC, this rivalry became an open succession struggle out of which Croesus emerged victorious.[8]


Once Croesus’s position as king was secure, he immediately launched a military campaign against the Ionian city of Ephesus. The ruling dynasty of Ephesus had engaged in friendly relations with Lydia consolidated by diplomatic marriages from the reign of Gyges until that of Alyattes: the Ephesian tyrant Pindar, who had previously supported Pantaleon in the Lydian succession struggle, was the son of a daughter of Alyattes, and was thus a nephew of Croesus. After Pindar rejected an envoy by Croesus demanding Ephesus to submit to Lydia, the Lydian king started to pressure the city and demanded that Pindar leave it and go into exile. After Pindar accepted these terms, Croesus annexed Ephesus into the Lydian Empire. Once Ephesus was under Lydian rule, Croesus provided patronage for the reconstruction of the Temple of Artemis, to which he offered a large number of marble columns as dedication to the goddess.[8]

Meanwhile the Ionian city of Miletus had been willingly sending tribute to Lydia in exchange of being spared from Lydian attacks because the overthrow of the city’s last tyrants, Thoas and Damasenor, and the replacement of the tyranny by a system of magistrates had annulated the relations of friendship initiated by Alyattes and the former Milesian tyrant Thrasybulus.[8]

Croesus continued his attacks against the other Greek cities of the western coast of Asia Minor until he had subjugated all of mainland Ionia, Aeolis, and Doris, but he abandoned his plans of annexing the Greek city-states on the islands and he instead concluded treaties of friendship with them, which might have helped him participate in the lucrative trade the Aegean Greeks carried out with Egypt at Naucratis.[8]

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Bring Lydians and Phrygians DLC to the people!

Full of stories DLC.

I already planned on including Lydians and Prhygians in the next poll, happy to see they’re alredy popular choices as I think western Anatolia need some love.
They will have a few contenders, though xD

I think that only Lidians would be fine… and lastly, some Bosphorus civ like Pontus…

As additions in a dlc, or as options in a poll? Because I don’t plan on limiting myself to the civs I thinks should be added to the game, it would not make sense to create a poll if I decided of the answers beforehand xD

Both, although I gave it as another option…

Well, I will definitely not limite myself to two civs for Anatolia, I have at least eight candidates for this region alone…