Why calling the English civ "Britons" is historically inaccurate and disrespectful

Age of Empires 2 does a fantastic job of evoking a medieval English aesthetic: Yeomen, Norman-style architecture (notably the Chichester Cathedral), recognizable English monarchs and the audio voices in Middle English. Because of this design, the in-game “Britons” civilization feels intuitively English to most players. However, looking at how the terms Briton, Brittones, and Brythoniaid were actually used in medieval sources shows that the label belongs to a completely different group of people. It referred to the island’s original Celtic, Brittonic-speaking inhabitants, not to the Anglo-Saxon and Anglo-Norman polities that later established control over England.

1. The original Britons were native Celts

Britannia derives from the Common Brittonic Pritanī, a name first recorded by Greek authors and later adopted into Latin as Britannia. Julius Caesar used the form Brittani for the island’s inhabitants during his campaigns, and Tacitus likewise employed Britanni when describing Roman operations in northern Britain, including conflicts with the Caledonii. Ancient writers therefore treated the term as a broad ethnogeographic label encompassing peoples across the whole island, applying “Britons” not only to southern groups but also to communities in the far north, from Caledonia down to the southern lowlands.

Late antique and early medieval writers continued to use forms of the Latin Britanni exclusively for the island’s Celtic inhabitants. After the end of Roman rule and the arrival of Germanic groups such as the Angles and Saxons, the native population retained this identity across several regions, preserving the ethnonym Britons well into the early medieval period.

Gildas clearly identifies the Britones as the native population fighting against the invading Saxons. Nennius in his Historia Brittonum explicitly lays out the history and genealogies of the native Celtic inhabitants as the true Britons of the island. The English monk Bede in his Ecclesiastical History of the English People makes a clear distinction between the Angli and the Britones as two different peoples. The Anglo‑Saxons called the native inhabitants either Wealas (meaning foreigners) or Brettas (derived from Britonnes).

Medieval Welsh literature and genealogies consistently used Brythoniaid as a self-designation. Primary sources illustrate that this was an active, lived identity. Welsh bards like Taliesin and Aneirin composed poetry celebrating the Brythoniaid. Up through the 12th century, Welsh princes framed their territorial defense as the preservation of the original British nation against Anglo-Norman expansion. A clear example comes from Owain Gwynedd during Henry II’s invasion in 1165: in his diplomatic letters to Louis VII of France, he asserted his sovereign status as ruler of the island’s original people, while his court poet Gwalchmai ap Meilyr celebrated his victories as the defense of Prydain (Britain) by the legitimate Brythoniaid against English usurpers.

This usage extended beyond the borders of modern Wales to include several distinct Brythonic groups:

  • The Bretons (Breizh): During the Anglo-Saxon migrations of the 5th and 6th centuries, large numbers of Southwestern Britons fled across the sea to Armorica. They renamed the region Brittany (Little Britain) to reflect their origin, preserving their Brythonic language and referring to themselves as Britons for centuries.
  • The People of Strathclyde (Alt Clud): In the north, the kingdom centered around Dumbarton Rock remained a Brittonic realm well into the 11th century. Nearby Gaelic, Irish, and English texts consistently described it as a kingdom of the Britons. The Gaelic name for Dumbarton, Dùn Breatann, literally translates to “Fort of the Britons.”
  • The Picts: Welsh sources called them Prydyn and their land Prydain, terms closely related to Briton and Britannia, showing that Welsh writers understood the northern peoples within a Brythonic conceptual framework. Early Welsh material, such as the Gododdin and the Harleian genealogies, places the Picts among the wider Brittonic world. Gaelic and Irish authors likewise referred to the Picts as Cruithni, a name widely interpreted as deriving from the Common Brittonic Pritanī, preserving an older association between the Picts and Brittonic-speaking populations. Taken together, Welsh Prydyn and Gaelic Cruithni demonstrate that neighboring cultures consistently regarded the Picts as part of the broader Brittonic continuum.

2. How English monarchs used and eventually adopted the idea of “Britain”

While native Celtic groups retained the identity of Britons for centuries, the rulers of England did not identify themselves or their kingdom as “British” for the vast majority of the Middle Ages. The earliest engagement with the term by English kings was imperial rather than national. In the 10th century, Anglo-Saxon monarchs like Athelstan adopted grand Latin titles such as Rex Anglorum et Basileus Totius Britanniae (“King of the English and Sovereign of All Britain”) following victories like the Battle of Brunanburh (937 AD). However, this was not a claim to be a Briton, it was an imperial assertion of dominance over the other distinct peoples of the island, namely the Welsh, Scots, and Strathclyde Britons. Following the Norman Conquest of 1066, Anglo-Norman monarchs defined themselves through their continental holdings, feudal status, and French-speaking court, maintaining a clear distinction between the Angli (or Normanni) and the conquered Britones of Wales.

The closest medieval English kings came to engaging with “British” identity was pure political co-option. In the 13th century, Edward I weaponized Geoffrey of Monmouth’s Arthurian mythology to legitimize his bloody conquest of Wales and invasion of Scotland. Edward staged Arthurian round tables and staged the exhumation of Arthur’s supposed tomb at Glastonbury specifically to tell the Welsh that their mythical protector was dead, and that the English Crown was the rightful heir to the island. Edward was not identifying as a Briton, he was hijacking Brythonic folklore to justify destroying the actual remaining Britons. The actual adoption of a “British” identity by the monarchy only materialized under the Tudor dynasty in the 16th century, who leveraged their own Welsh ancestry to claim descent from King Arthur and legitimate their authority. This ideological shift culminated in 1603 when James VI of Scotland inherited the English throne as James I. Desperate to unite his two realm-states, he proclaimed himself “King of Great Britain,” formally creating the political identity we know today.

For the medieval period depicted in Age of Empires 2, calling an English kingdom “Britons” projects a 17th-century unionist identity backwards onto a medieval power that saw itself strictly as English and Anglo-Norman.

3. The case for a civilization split

The development team has successfully reworked broad or misnamed umbrellas in past expansions. Breaking up broad groupings into more accurate regional factions has consistently improved both historical representation and gameplay variety.

A similar approach would work well here:

  • Rename the current faction to “The English”: Retain the Longbowman, the Yeomen tech, the archer range bonuses, and the Middle English audio. This keeps the existing gameplay balance intact while correcting the naming issue immediately.
  • Add a proper Brythonic civilization (“the Britons”): Introduce a dedicated faction representing the native Celtic and Brythonic realms, spanning the Romano-Britonnic kingdom of Dumnonia, the kingdom of Strathclyde, the Picts, and the Welsh principalities (such as Gwynedd and Powys). This civ could focus on mobile infantry, skirmishers, or guerrilla tactics, using authentic Welsh voice lines and Celtic architecture. Moving the Woad Raider from the generic Celts (which is a more Scots/Gaelic-leaning civ) over to this new Brythonic faction would also solve another long-standing historical anomaly, as painted foot-warriors like the Picts and ancient Britons fit this unit concept far better.

Renaming the current civilization to the English and introducing a genuine Brythonic faction would honor the actual history of the British Isles while adding rich new options for the community.

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Developers prefered to use (what is that word) archaic(?) names for civs. They used Britons, Teutons, Franks, Vikings, Saracens instead of English/British, Germans, French/Frankish, Norse, Arabians.

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nowadays, the inhabitants of Britain are called Britons.

Yes, the term was used differently back then, but they also spoke different languages. I don’t see people requesting that the Romans are renamed “Romani”, or other such examples.

I do agree though that their naming is inconsistent, as in many foreign languages they are or were named “English” (eg in Spanish they were called “Ingleses” before DE)

this is not entirely correct: “British” is the adjective, “Briton” is the demonym.
eg: British food (ugh), but, “Elizabeth was queen of the Britons”.

All the civs use plural demonyms, calling the Britons “the British” would be inconsistent.

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Like Turk/Turkish or Spaniard/Spanish. Yes I understand but this time Spanish is inconsistent.

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good point, i’ve never before noticed that.

Chinese/Japanese/Burmese, as well.
But I’m not sure if they have unique demonyms, “Chinaman” sounds super old-fashioned, borderline racist.

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Romani means Romans. “Romans” is the proper term to describe them but in the English language.

This has nothing to do with the topic. You are entirely missing the point.

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it seems like you missed the point.

You were claiming that “Briton” meant something else in medieval times.
But this is not relevant now, as TODAY “Briton” means inhabitant of Britain. So unless Welsh and English are split, “Briton” remains the correct term

Nowadays, modern people from the United Kingdom are called British people or Brits, while the term Britons mostly refers to the ancient Celtic-speaking groups who lived there since the Iron Age.

No matter how you look at the problem, the term Britons to refer to the English is an oddity.

We have britons celts normans/sicilians romans saxons in-game now,who are english in that context?

that’s just not true?

it took me 5 seconds to find a newspaper article using the word “Britons” to refer to British people. Brits is the informal version.

why are people in this forum so eager to show off their own ignorance?

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Then why the French are called Franks and the Germans are called Teutons? Obviously, it’s not possible to find consistency or coherence in the choices of the early developers.

Please, stay polite. This is a personal attack; it has no place here.

My personal take prior to the Saxons being announced was that probably the simplest division was into “Gaels”, “Britons” and “English”, kinda maintaining the distinction between the two Celtic groups, while disconnecting the Germanic arrivals in their own civ.

The addition of Saxons kinda nukes that entire division now. Great Britain is now quite a mess without an easy way out.

I bet all those historical native Britons are deeply offended that the AoK devs opted for a single civ to represent both English and Welsh, despite having been dead for 800+ years. Gildas explicitly said that English and Welsh can’t be represented by the same civ because of a battle that happened when he was less than one year old. The game must use only 8th-century or earlier Latin terminology! This terrible injustice must be rectified! /s

I wasn’t going to respond to this thread until I saw this nonsense:

Britons is used frequently to refer to British people in general all the time – this is by far the most common usage of the word in modern English. For example, here’s a recent BBC news article doing so:

You think they mean that seven ancient Celtic-speaking people who lived in Britain in the Iron Age died in wildfires in Spain this summer? Don’t be ridiculous.

It’s fine to want a Welsh civ, and it’s fine to want to rename Britons to something else, but you don’t need to make up some bizarre fantasy about it being disrespectful to use a word in its modern sense. Just explain why you think a Welsh civ would be good and interesting.

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because they are not the same. The Franks of the middle ages (especially under Charlemagne) were included a much larger variety of people. Some of those eventually developed to be French, but some others became Germans, Dutch, etc. Germany still has a region called “Franconia”, the inhabitants call themselves “Franken”.

this one is extra weird, because the “Teutons” were a Germanic tribe during early Roman times (and maybe earlier, but there are no consistent records).
However “Teutonic” was used on and off for centuries to refer to Germans (even as recently as WW1, did British media on occasion call the Germans “Teutons”). “Teutonic” still gets occasionally when refering to stereotypically German traits like “Order and Discipline”, but it’s getting more and more archaic.

I agree that the devs were trying to evoke medieval “vibes” with some of their namings, however “Britons” is still the correct modern term, and anything but archaic.

I find it very impolite of you, to directly contradict me, when it would take you 5 seconds to fact-check yourself. Hence my reply.

There is Tatars in the game. Tatars is Turkic. However original Tatars were Mongolic (Some historians says original Tatars were Turkic too, some historians says they were mixed. I personally think they were Mongolic.) Neigbours of Mongols were calling all Mongolic tribes as Tatars. After Mongols conquered their neigbour Turkic tribes, this Turkic tribes were called as Tatars too. While original Tatars were dissolving among Mongols their name stayed for being used to call Turkic tribes.

I don’t know story of Britons but can it be common points between Celtic Britons → modern Britons and Mongolic Tatars → modern Tatars?

To my knowledge, and English isn’t my first language, it’s only used by journalists in writing. I’ve never heard anyone say ‘Britons’ out loud to refer to modern people. I’m also not the only one who has noticed how weird it sounds:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/do-the-british-use-the-term-britons/2016/06/30/3f2f6e60-3947-11e6-af02-1df55f0c77ff_story.html

Correct me if I am wrong.

this is one person who self-declares not to be from the UK.

I correct you, you are wrong.

I’ve spent years living in the UK, “Briton” and “Britons” is what most people use. “The British” will usually only get used when referring to something like national spirit, or when talking in the abstract or stereotypes.

Eg “The British are overly fond of queuing”, “The British are protective of their Queen”, or in a joke like “The British have a lot in common with ants”

However whenever talking about individuals, one would use “Britons”. eg “On my trip I met 3 Germans, 2 Frenchmen, and 4 Britons”. Or “Britons are no longer welcome on Ibiza due to binge drinking”.

think of it a bit like the difference between much (British) and many (Britons). Whenever you can count them, say “Britons” (as a rule of thumb)

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I see your point. The modern usage of the term “Britons” is a bit like the modern “Americans” or the modern “Scandinavians”. It can create confusion and some people doesn’t like it (like Finns being called Scandinavians).

Anyway my point is that during the medieval period, the term was specifically used for a different people than the English. I understand now the modern usage but I think it is innappropriate for a game set in the medieval era.

To add to what @TheTowerDefender said, I think there are a couple of reasons that it can feel like primarily a journalistic term. Firstly, there are loads of news articles and they are really easy to find on the internet, so you’re much more likely to find a journalist using it in writing than someone else. Secondly, British journalists have frequent cause to use it in the contexts they write in, because a big part of their job is to report things in the national interest, which includes when events in other countries affect Britons. On the other hand, situations to use it don’t come up all that often in normal conversation.

And I think it’s inappropriate for a game made in the 1990s to use medieval terminology rather than modern English. Plus, do you have a better suggestion for a one-word name for a civ representing both English and Welsh?

By the way, when AoK was in development, the civ was originally called British. My guess is they changed it because that sounds too modern (since it’s a modern nationality) whereas Britons does not.

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