Why is cruel animal abuse in AoE2 DE fine, but harsh language is not?

These camels are not dying in real life. They are virtual.
Insulting someone affects them in real life though, which is a different case from virtual camels. If someone would burn camels in real life, then people would also view it differently from what happens to virtual camels.

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Ohhhhh this isn’t a personal attack… I missed that class at self absorbed single child school… Oh wait i didnt go to that school… But i guess someone did

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A “very special” school, for “very unique” students.
Don’t let them stand out in the Sun, though…

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This hypothetical example is hardly a personal attack…have you not heard of trash talk in games and sports?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trash-talk

And moreover you’ve completely missed the point, which is that you don’t need harsh language to criticise someone, and the censoring system as is in place now is unable to tell the context in which the language it is censoring is being used.

I’ve had the word “hole” censored before when talking about gaps in walls by this system to teammates…

But again, vivid depicitions of camels being incinerated is no problem.

War is part of life but insults are a breakdown of social order? I think most civilised societies would put it the other way round, if anything…

So by your logic anything which isn’t “real”, i.e. books/films/drawings etc., can’t affect people since what they are depicting is not real, it is only “virtual”??

Then why do PEGI ratings exist?

And vice versa, you think that by default any kind of harsh language would affect someone? You don’t think people are able to brush it off in the context of a video game…

This might be cultural, but as a non-American, I don’t think cursing is necessary for efficient communication. :joy: And of course children also play this game, the server doesn’t know whether you’re 10 or 50 years old. As long as the filter doesn’t filter out normal words due to being too strict, I don’t care about it.

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Stop hyperbolizing for the sake of making you seem right. It is an argument fallacy called straw hat man fallacy. He didn’t say anything you claim he said. He said virtual camels don’t affect anyone.

Also yes the game is already classified pegi 12 because pegi understands it is violence in a ficitional scenary never bound to happen.

While any more agressive harsh language will need aoe2 to be reclassified as pegi 16, taking away a big portion of sales.

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Which is why they tend to fall, when they get soft and begin encouraging internal strife rather than competition with the outside world, as is natural.

A society that is on the up-swing tends to tolerate very little dissent and encourage overcoming the foreign.
Just look at modern China, ancient Rome, Persia and Macedon, the Mongols… This list would be endless.

Spain and Britain conquered almost the whole world, and both had morality laws for swearing or inciting internecene conflict.

Portugal ruled through trade because we were known for being very respectful and vindictive at the same time.

Morality makes Civilization.
Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man”
-Gospel of Matthew 15:11

To make people squeemish and weak, and encourage self-dout rather than bravery or impartial judgement.

Straw hat fallacy??? What are you talking about?? Do you mean straw man fallacy?? Straw man - Wikipedia

Ancient Rome? You’re happy to live in a society where people are killed by wild animals for entertainment? But harsh language in a video game is a no no???

Ancient Rome is one of the basis of Western Civilization.

We are still great to this day, because the legacy of Rome was great.

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You know, there is a thing in society called civism, and another called respect. Social interactions are expected to be held with regard toward those 2 things. Making derogatory comments to someone, targeting his or her physical appearance, intellectual or mental capacities, or family, does not fit with the notion of civism, nor does it fit with the notion of respect. Hence the will to oppose such non-civilized behavior.

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yes lol, i always make this mistake. too much one piece.

It feels like a lot of jokes have gone over a lot of heads in this thread hahahaha. But personally I think what’s really being missed here is the sheer brutality begin displayed in AOE2 against boars. These innocent beasts are roaming the field when they get shot at, then when they give chase to the predator they find themselves ambushed and slaughtered. So sad.

My 2 cents, that are not going to change conversation:

Some comparisons with GTA V

I like the GTA V analogy. Murder, homicide, theft, prost… — enough, or i will get flagged — and lots of swear words in cutscenes.

Yet, the word frick (you know what i mean) is censored in the GTA Online chat. But why? GTA V is PEGI 18, right? it would be ok to have no censor.

See it like that: GTA V is an work of “art”. And, as an work of art, it has what is called poetic license. Arbitrary, hypocrite, and unjust poetic license, the way poetic license was meant to be.
But having an person insulting other people outside of the art context kinda of escapes the scope of that license — in fact, aggression escapes the entire scope of any work of art, game, book or movie (that’s why most games ban people who violently insult).

Assuming the game is an work of art, the analogy is waay easier. Punching people at the movies when watching some gore heavy stuff, or insulting people at an satanic/national socialist black metal concert (don’t judge my musical taste plz) is wrong, even if the art is… questionable.

You guys are totally right in talking about your opinion on berbers eating pigs or the like. But come on, the sensor is not the best thing to compare it too — talk about how anno is fun without mass death, idk, it’s an more solid argument, one i could agree with. Also, i don’t like the censor either.

TL;DR of the entire topic: OP doesn’t like language censor, uses bad analogy to attack it. Some of the repliers also don’t like language censor, but most agree that analogy was bad. I don’t like language censor, but i love arguing with random people on the internet.

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boo hoo why cant i call my team mate a wetard!!! :((
Grow up dude this is a game lol
There shouldn’t be grip on censoring language but people like this only make themselves look like asses for getting upset. The only just response to that kinda behavior is 11.

It seems irony, sarcasm, and hypocrisy are lost on a lot of people…

Is this your confession, my son?

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LMAO 20x lmaos chars