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Don’t know if this is a troll post or not, but:
Foot archers put more DPS per resource spend on the field than horse archers.
I feel like this question even transports a complete lack of understanding about how any RTS game ever even functions. There are different unit types, that do different things and the art of mastering an RTS is which unit type(s) to field in any given circumstance.
You might as well ask the question: Why is Cavalry better than infantry? Why is infantry better than camels? But camels beat cavalry, so are they better then?. No unit is strictly “better” than another unit, except its a direct upgrade from a unit + argueably some UU are better versions of generic units.
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And you have elephant archers with almost 8 times the HP of an Arbalest, while costing roughly the same as a Knight.
Arbalest = You get 0.88 HP per gold
Elite elephant archer = You get 3.75 HP per gold
You are not only getting more than 4 times the HP per gold; you are also getting a much more pop-efficient unit.
That’s the definition of imbalance.
yet you barely ever see elephant archers in ranked play.
HP is the least important stat of a ranged unit
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No. I frequently see Elephant Archers in high-level games.
Because CA are more expensive, produce slower. Generic foot archers can be massed before reaching castle age. Unique foot archers have some great ability like speed, ability to break rams with extra projectiles, 12 range etc and are usually better than generic CA and most of the unique CA.
Yes, after having a 50+ vill lead and destroying 4 castles, they always add a couple of elephant archers to flex
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But elephant archers are much more expensive, you get more DPS per ressource with foot archers. Plus, ideally you want some meat shield to tank the damage that archers would get. Elephants archers do not need that nearly as much, though they get punished very hard by the spear line.
- Having almost 8 times the HP of an Arbalester!
- Bringing more than 4 times the HP per gold than an Arbalester
- More attack than an Arbalester
- More pierce armor than an Arbalester
- Faster than an Arbalester with Husbandry
- Being much more pop efficient
- And getting specific civ bonuses on top of it
And this unit still needs to be buffed?
How come does the topic relate to elephant archers then?
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Because he needs to try and nerf the South Asian civs somehow…
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Isn’t it that because Turks have no counter to elephant archers?
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I. don’t. care. anymore. if. they. don’t.
Turks have heavy camels which delete Elephant archers in near equal numbers. Hussars with extra pierce armor and jannissaries in behind should also be able to beat them.
Gurjaras and Hindustanis are the only problem matchups to Turks since their camels delete anything mounted offense Turks attempt and have excellent options against jannissaries
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I would never use generic heavy camels against anything other than light and sub-par heavy cavalries. They got power crept and have become so niche that they’re even countered by some cavalries. So elephants have just too much HP for generic camels. I would use Hussars + heavy scorpions against elephant archers.
Against superior Camels, I would still go with mass Cavalry Archers to kite them, or using mass Hand Cannons instead of paying for the Elite Janissary upgrade.
well I’ll recommend actually investing and making enough of them instead of making such assumptions.
You cant kite with cav archers because they’re slower than camels and have a lot of frame delay
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I was referring his reason for nerfing elephant archers
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