Still not complete. A big major power Austria is pending.
It’s not pending. Devs have said no to splitting the Germans and they’re certainly not going to add a new Austrian civ with that mind. Austria-Hungary was ‘bigger’ than Denmark and now we have Denmark coming so I think it says it all 
Just to add:
I’d love to be proved wrong. I’m just being grumpy and realistic.
Not enough voice lines. Age of Empires 2 has a single voice set for all military units, AoE3 has unique ones per units.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they just record new ones for every single unit.
Tilanus? He is a liar. Or he just bluffs and has no such authority in deciding the civs.
His hint about this DLC was “Sultanate and Confederacy” It didn’t come true either.
It wasn’t a hint.
From Tilanus’ Discord message:
well .. I think the Sodium Confederacy and Copper Sultanate are great hints! Don’t you think?
It was just poking fun.
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Then that Austria comment might also have been the same. He is poking fun that’s all.
i don’t know how you can possibly think as vague and odd of an answer as “Sodium Confederacy and Copper Sultanate” was ever suppose to be real hints. obviously Tilanus wasn’t going to leak the factions on discord before official release.
the Austria “comment” was multiple times and he didn’t beat about the bushes, it was a very clear answer with clear arguments behind it.
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Austrians are Germans. They where the leading power of the Holy Roman Empire and the German lands for the vast majority of the game’s time period. You cannot have a HRE themed German faction without the Austrians, it would require a ground up rework for the faction, which is extremely unlikely.
The only possibility I see for seperate Austrian inclusion is an Napoleonic era type card in the Hungarian revolution.
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Maybe both
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There was only one very old comment not multiple. That too from a UI designer who clearly likes to through random statements for fun. If you think that one comment has some clear arguments then consider this that since then even more non serious civs like USA, Mexico and Malta have been added. If German split is illogical then these 3 civs are even more illogical. Danes are as different from Swedes as Austrians are to the Prussians.
Tilanus is almost certainly the lead dev of AOE3DE.
and he has turned down the idea multiple times.
you can read down from here for an example, or you can go to search and then just scroll through what Tilanus has said.
If you think that one comment has some clear arguments then consider this that since then even more non serious civs like USA, Mexico and Malta have been added.
i don’t make the decisions. i also would have preferred we had gotten something other than those factions but i can’t change the past.
Destroying the German faction is not going to happen, which is what it would require to make either Prussia but esp. Austria their own factions.
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Say what you want about the likelihood of it happening, but don’t lie about it destroying Germany. It could be done with cosmetic changes only.
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Changes required to reskin Germans into either Prussians or Austrians will be as much as Ottomans rework (which got brand new unit lines) or even less effort than that just changing a few texts.
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A Prussian faction would require:
no melee infantry units, esp. doppelsoldners
a musketeer
no war wagon.
grenadiers.
almost all the cards to be changed.
pleas tell me how much of the factions identity is left after that.
Why what’s wrong with doppelsoldners? It’s already a anachronistic unit like many other civs have: Chu Ko Nu, Samurai, Urumi, Longbowman.
Doppelsoldner even fits for upcoming Danish Civ.
Landwehr is fine as a musketeer.
Nothing wrong in War Wagon. All European Civs will be boring Muskets and Cannons if they don’t include such out of standard units to make it interesting.
Grenadiers is just a balance choice. Since Uhlans already do their role.
Minor changes to cards are required.
Flag is already Prussian.
Almost all of faction identity is left after that. Certainly more than the Ottoman Rework.
As M00Z1LLA said it will be a cosmetic change only in terms of few texts not even graphics. Or leave it as Germans a small text replacement mod, can override later to rename the civ if sombody wants to.
Not with the current devs. They are too Eurocentric to expect anything.
They introduced Victors and Vanquished DLC with 19 scenarios covering 5th century, 8th century - 16th century. They skipped someone’s golden age there. 16 out of 19 scenarios are European. In AoE3 they would rather introduce Colonial Nations or Knights than including Empires outside Europe. You have 3 winged hussars in AoE2, wait till we reach the same number in AoE3. In AoE4 they would go for the English Kingdom as a civilization rather than Empires from the rest of the world and make more and more ahistorical variant civs to ruin the game with crap. They will make campaign videos for French Campaign, Russian Campaign, Norman Campaign in AoE4, but Sultan’s Ascend Campaign has nothing.
What thing? Do you forget that they added the Incas, Mexico, the United States and an African expansion?
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how is samurais anachronistic? weird depicted sure but its not like samurais didn’t exist.
Doppelsoldners where soldiers of the emperor first and foremost and thus more austrian than anything else.
in what world are these units doing the same role?
no, it is the flag of the holy roman empire. by this point it is clear you have no idea what you are talking about so lets end it here.
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There’s been no rumours, though many fans on here, Reddit and Discord very much would like to see the Persians (though not as vocal for Afghan and almost silent on Turko-Mongols…). These forums are a little bit of an echo-chamber so you’ll probably find that more Euros, especially a Polish civ were highly sought after by the the silent majority (plus the last Euro dlc brought more sales than the Africa dlc).
If I was a betting man, I’d say that if we get future DLC after this one, it would almost certainly not be Euro-specific. Germans aside, there really isn’t any other Euro civs that noteworthy nor powerful left after Poles/Danish. That barrel is empty and the Devs aren’t going to scrape it for Belgium or whatever (if they do, it’ll be in Rev form).
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That’s why you make the current faction Austrian. Prussia would be mostly new stuff. But you also could have Teutonic Knights as melee infantry.
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