Making Abbasid trade stronger will not change anything for this civ.
There is nothing you build towards, china would still be better in teamgames and in 1v1 trade is not really important, water control is one big thing there, which you lack completely with Abbasid (could it be a good idea if Abbasid harbours can attack if fishing ships are garrisoned and increase the space to 5 garrisoned ships ?)
Imho the unique units need to be reworked and/or need to be quite a bit stronger. There are so many upgrades purely focused around camels while camels themself just not being worth it to get those updates.
Lets assume the cost would not even be an issue for camel units, why would you build them ? Like why would you want to build camel archers instead of archers. Or why would you want to build camel riders instead of spear (you would even lose your option to build siege in field by using those units)
Maybe it would be even enough to buff golden age, reduce the buildings needed by 15-20%.
I am Noob, just throwing in ideas, but for sure Abbasid needs some sort of buff.
I think camel archers are kinda fine. They make good support with a decent number mixed in with regular ranged. They also have decent stats for early and mid game. But camel riders are useless for their cost. I really hard tried to pull them off in a general comp, but I failed misserably even against hardest AI.
Thatās not a bad idea. Itās currently really difficult to hit Tier 3 Golden Age w/ Abbasid. You can build a ton of houses, but thatās not really practical in the game unless Abbasid gets cheaper houses.
Yeh you are right. I stopped playing the game and a friend told me about this bug, but got it a little wrong.
After you unlocked the Golden Age, you dont need to build anymore any Production Buildings inside the area of influence and yeh you can just place the foundation and get the score up
i only realise now. The other civilizations build a building, and this building this something. But when Abbasid build a wing, it does not nothing. It only gives acces to 4 technologies, which each cost expensive resources. So with Abbasid you are mostly throwing away resources? this makes Abbasid a very expensive civilization to even reach upgrades.
its not fair only 1 landmark and its easy to destroy, they should make when u age up to come out wagon from HOW something llike mongols and u set it up, when i go to destroy other civs i need 4 , 5 builddings to destroy but for Abbs only 2 and ur doneā¦
Not fairā¦
I like your idea of having techs included with the Age up, as opposed to having to research the tech itself. So as you add a wing/Age up, the techs are automatically researched - or at very least the first tech from each Wing.
The House of Wisdom HP definitely needs to be buffed waaay more with each Age, given how easy the Abbasids are to snipe.
I had an idea for their age up mechanic. You could get a certain bonus depending on what wing you aged up with. For example if you choose to go to age 2 with the economic wing, you would get a stockpile of 300 stone upon reaching feudal, towards an extra tc, this would increase if you choose to go with the economic wing for age 3, maybe 300 stone and gold, something like that.
If you go with the military wing perhaps you could get a military unit upgrade instantlly as you age, considering they are described as anti cavalry, perhaps the pikeman or camel upgrade depending on what age you have just reached.
Cultural Wing could be next non house of wisdom technology is free, scaling from 1, 2 and 3 free techs depending on what age you are in.
Trade Iām not really too sure, perhaps free trade carts or something.
The specific bonuses arenāt too important, but the main point is that the Abbasids could get an instant bonus as they age up, based around what wing they chose. This would help make up for their slower age up time, and boost them towards whatever strategy they are going with.