Poland (and Italy) could be both potential revolution civs and full playable civs. I wonder why they are not added as revolutions. I believe there should be plans to make them major civs but the devs never said a word about it.
Greece would also be a nice revolution option.
i dont understand the german-norway and the french-korea rev. ideas, are there historical connections? also i dont think, moldavia should be a seperate revolution, since they later joined with wallachia and formed romania
He’s probably referring to modern Moldova, which consists of Moldavian territories that were constantly getting pushed back and forth between being part of Romania and being part of Russia, until they became independent in 1990. Very much not fitting in the game, but Moldovans have a very fierce nationalism and try to distance themselves from Romania despite the shared history, culture and language.
Alexandru Ioan Cuza is the one who formally merged Wallachia and Moldavia into Romania. Romania then earned independence after the Russian-Romanian-Ottoman war, and that is long after the formation of Romania under Cuza. Since the Romanian revolution is available to both Ottoman and Russian civilizations, it is most likely that it points to this war and not some de facto independence that they had from earlier time.
This is after 50 years of communist brainwashing. Those territories have always been under some sort of Romanian speaking control, part of the reason they speak Romanian to this day. Under the timeframe of the game, they were part of the small union of Romania, and stayed that way until WW2, when they were forcefully taken away by treaties between Nazi Germany and Communist Russia.
Not entirely. Most of its history as part of the Kingdom of Moldavia it was either a vassal or protectorate of the Ottomans with a small period of being under Polish control, then in 1812 it was ceded to the Russian Empire by the Ottomans, before becoming part of Moldavia again in 1856.
In 1859 Moldavia joined Romania, but they had to cede Moldova’s region back to the Russians in 1878, under whose control it remained for the rest of the 19th century.
All in all Moldova, was only part of Romania for only 19 years during the game’s time frame.
Instead of Ukraine or Tunisia, I think Greece is a far better fit as a revolution option for the Ottomans. It fits the time period (Greek War of Independence - 1821-1829) and is extremely important because it was the first successful war of independence against the Ottomans and because there were volunteers from all over Europe who fought in this war.