I think the Finns and other Ugro-Finnic peoples realize that most of the time they were part of Sweden from the Middle Ages until 1809.

Europe is a separate continent - in terms of culture, civilization and history, without a shadow of a doubt.
India too.

Makes sense. The Balkans are inhabited by peoples unrelated to each other, i.e. South Slavs, Greeks, Albanians, Romanians and Hungarians - to put it simply. Just like India.
India has 10 times the land of the Balkans, more than 50 times more languages most probably, 20 times the population, more powerful civilizations and far faaar variation in religion and I wouldargue culture.
Yes, Albanians are super unique but they had like 200 years of indpendence and never had much power
It does not matter.
India is the same region for Asia as the Balkans are for Europe - size doesn’t matter.

BTW, just so we’re clear, this conversation is about the whole Indian sub-continent, not just the modern-day Indian state. So we’re talking about a territory that extends to modern-day Afghanistan, Pakistan, Nepal, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka also.
Even including Persians and SEA Indian cultural area is severely unrepresented

India is the same region for Asia as the Balkans are for Europe - size doesn’t matter.
Amazing, every word you just said is wrong.

India too.
NO! INDIA IS A REGION OF ASIA!!!

India has 10 times the land of the Balkans, more than 50 times more languages most probably, 20 times the population, more powerful civilizations and far faaar variation in religion and I wouldargue culture.
You just get excited about the sheer size India is.
Understand that India is just a region of Asia, not a separate continent.
The Balkans are a region of Europe just like India is a region of Asia!
x10 in size is not important in this matter

Yes, Albanians are super unique but they had like 200 years of indpendence and never had much power
Therefore, to cover them you need the Venetians civ and Serbs civ.
Well no, that’s the thing. India has much more population, more diversity of culture, more states, etc., than the Balkans. That’s just how it is, and I suggest you read more about India before making further ignorant claims. India is more comparable to Europe as a whole. The Balkans could be compared to 1/4 or 1/3 of India.

Even including Persians and SEA Indian cultural area is severely unrepresented
Persia is not an “Indian area”.
SEA only needs Siamese civ.

Understand that India is just a region of Asia, not a separate continent.
The Balkans are a region of Europe just like India is a region of Asia!
x10 in size is not important in this matter
okay how about the fact that Europe now has something like 18 or 19 civs, and we should represent areas in other parts of the world that don’t have as much representation yet? especially, come on man. Romania?

Persia is not an “Indian area”.
SEA only needs Siamese civ.
Hey guys Europe has something like 19 civs in this game, i’m proposing adding 4-6 more, but South East Asia, which only has something like 5 civs only needs one more civ.
at least TRY to be unbiased? like seriously - you’re proposing adding Romania but you think SEA only needs one more civ? if were adding Romania i can think of about 15 civs in SEA that would be bigger then the Romanias.

Amazing, every word you just said is wrong.
X DDDDD
Perhaps read your scribbles first, calmly?
Indian nationalists finally create your own topic instead of destroying all other topics!

Indian nationalists finally create your own topic
Not an Indian Nationalist at all, i’m just finding your claims to be incredilous. heck even some of your proposed bonuses need more work seeing as…

Rebellious - villagers get + armor and attack (because whenever Serbian army was defeated the peasantry would rebel against oppressors)
this is basically supremacy for spanish (or Incan civ bonus).

- Faithful - units immune / very resistant to enemy monk conversion (because Serbs rejected every religion imposed on them, save for orthodoxy which was very much reshaped to reflect pagan roots)
this is basically first crusade

Unique Technologies: Recruits (Knight-line gold cost reduced to 50, Zupan reduced to 35)
this is basically the polish unique tech.

- Unique Units: Hospodar (cavalry armed with a spear - throws spears in ranged combat)
pretty sure units can’t have both a ranged and a melee attack in this game.

Hillforts - Towers cost -50 stone, outpost cost no stone (650w 100s)
this techs name is already in use.

It does not matter.
India is the same region for Asia as the Balkans are for Europe - size doesn’t matter.
It is offensive to the Asian.
Is it that you regarded Europe have same complexity of ethnicity, religion and culture with Asia?
And I consider your activities harmful.
You don’t create anything, you just complain and destroy topics created by people with a different opinion.

You don’t create anything
yeah because i’ve never proposed changes to civs or anything. I’ve never come out and said the devs should focus on fixing bugs and team games and such issues.

you just complain and destroy topics created by people with a different opinion.
yeah because i’ve never supported other peoples ideas? being critical is not harmful.
I am all for adding more EU civs. but not right away. 6 of the last 8 civs have been European already. we have 18+ civs already that are European, East Europe alone has 6 civs right now, alone. and it isn’t that big of an area. but you actually have the audacity to say i’m being harmful when you propose Romanians (and serbs) but then turn around and say that the only area in south east asia that isn’t covered is the Siamese? do you realize how many cultures there are in the south east asia region?
Just because I don’t create themes about India doesn’t mean I don’t want them - I’m just indifferent to India. I would love to see the Khazars, Tibetans and Siamese much more.

NO! INDIA IS A REGION OF ASIA!!!
India is as diferent of Mongolia as Europe is.
I dont know how do you want to claim that you arent eurocentrist while writing stuff like this

x10 in size is not important in this matter
In that case nothing matters. If theres something to look at to see if its a powerful empire is its size.
And power is one of the two important things to look at to add a civ.
I wrote this to all the fanboys of India in general - it wasn’t just for you.

I dont know how do you want to claim that you arent eurocentrist while writing stuff like this
I am not a Eurocentrist and I care about a lot of civs from Africa. Just because I don’t approve of Indian spam (more than 4 civs from this region) doesn’t mean I’m a Eurocentrist.

In that case nothing matters. If theres something to look at to see if its a powerful empire is its size.
And power is one of the two important things to look at to add a civ.
Size =no= quality