But it doesn’t include the Basque/Navarrese and Aragonese/Catalan faction
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I mean the medieval Tibetan Empire, not the current region of Tibet that arouses controversy
And Microsoft in general too
It will split tibet from china,it is a serious political problem
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Maybe Tufans is a good way of skipping this problem?
Other way is just to include them with the Tanguts
But there is a Uyghurs faction in Genghis Khan Mission 1…
Must be campaigns audio?
A player as Uyghurs isnt the same as giving them an entire new civ
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The fact that the Spain is based on the union of the Aragon and Castile is known by every student who had learned the world history.
The Portuguese are actually the one already separated from the Spanish umbrella since their achievements in Africa and Asia make they worth the separation. The current Spanish civ is already small and specific, and no enough suitable reason to prove they need any split in my opinion.
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All these moves on steamdb mean I think that the announcement will be for immediate release of the DLC.
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So they will announce & release simultaneously?
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It looks like this, this time. There are already made files for many weeks on steamdb and audio files also added recently.
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God I hope so. It is torturing having no info as it is, but having info and having to wait longer? UGH
Should be tomorrow if Sage Valentine thing was right
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Yes, tomorrow or on Friday is the most likely date for an announcement. These moves on steamdb happened in the previous DLC releases a couple of days before release. I wouldn’t be surprised if the release is included in the Febuary update.
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Honestly, with Lithuanians, Burgundians and Sicilians already being in the game and Aragonese being more distinct from Castille than Portugal and being relevant for a longer time, Aragon wouldnt be out of place.
Portuguese themselves shouldnt have been added imo and Spain should just represent Iberia and Lithuanians should have been Poles from the beggining, but thats another diferent topic
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In the fact, the introduction of the Portuguese is based on their activities on the Africa and Asia, not the difference among other Iberian kingdoms and them. The comparison between the Aragon and Castile doesn’t matter to the Portuguese civ.
Lithuanians can cover other Baltic peoples. Burgundians cover the medieval Low Countries and act the rival of Joan of Arc who is one of the most important characters of the world history and the game. Sicilians act as the crusader civ and cover the Normans who Italians can not represent.
All of them have other meanings to be different civ from the Poles, Franks and Italians. I don’t know what the Aragonese can do that the current Spanish definitely can’t. Even if there it is, I guess the achievement still smaller than the Portuguese and many other European candidates like the Vlach and South Slavs, not to mention the strong Asian and African candidates.
But if the dev only wanna serve the West market, turning every European feudal kingdoms and city-states into civs is indeed a way, a workable but disappointing way.
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Well everything is different with this one. Like how they added the achievements waaay ahead of time.
Considering that apparently people here have time at disposal like crazy, there might be a new UU hidden in this recent Twitter post:
Good luck 
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I think it does when they were closely relatd to Castille culture wise and arent even that diferent gameplaywise
Sure, but considering they have a short independent history as a kingdom and the baltic peoples on themselves arent that big of a deal I would say.
They are the same as Aragonese, maybe even worse since they were only important for being rich and their period of independence is very short for a civ that is also a lot like Franks gameplaywise. And I mentioned them because they also joined a union.
Normans are closer to Franks than Aragon is to Castille and didnt add anything thatthe civ didnt already do.
I agree that it would be bad and I really like all the others examples as well, but I like Aragon a bit more than everyone else here.
That can be argued but honestly Aragon was still more powerful for a longer time and more unique too.
Absolutely not. Only Venice is comparable. Only reason I would actually rather have them over Serbs is that Serbs cannot be represented rn.
Yes of course, but Im just saying that considering how low is the bar for European civs Aragon could fit.
Already looked, was nothing sadly