That’s right, there was already a mod for that on HD and Voobly.
And fan fact, there is new unique African monk in game files.
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Well, it might be in this DLC, bohemians have not the generic castle, but Karlštein, same fore Poles, they have unique castle in the schreenshots.
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Thats an amazing design
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so next dlc maybe african
I think there was a pic of an african monk earlier too.
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This unit skin was in the files since DE released.
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Look at these lists:
You will see more European kingdoms then Asian in general. When you also look further into the Asian “nomadic kingdoms” it was actually a khanate or Empire and in general the middle east is the place with the most kingdoms in Asia which is coincidentially which is usually to still be counted towards the medieval age.
Dukes arent titles equivelant to king. Emir is usually more equal to duke. Emperor and Tsar are both higher ranks than king.
And like the other guy stated, monarchs from the kingdom of Poland were often Dukes or high dukes untill 1290.
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I think most if not all Slavic languages have between 6-7 cases for declension. Hungarian has 18 & Finnish 15!
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But khans and emirs, again, are just another type of king.
And if a duke is independent from any king, then for all intents and purposes they are like a king, they are the “first ruler”.
Empires are also usually kingdoms that for one reason or another have decided to call themselves an empire. Like for example, Bulgaria called itself an empire, but it wasn’t really any different from the neighbouring kingdoms of the time.
Age of Kings was meant to be about the wider world, not just Europe.
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There is some merit to what you say but its a little more copmplicated. In different parts of the World there has been different understanding about an Empire or rulers thats called Emperor. In Europe the Empirial tradition was directly related to Rome. In Roman times there was one emperor and could be only one emperor in Europe. When Rome split there were two Eastern and Western. When Rome fell there was only one in Bysantium. This was until the Pope Leo III pronounced Charlemange for “Roman” Emperor (establishing the HRE). It was assumed there were again two emperors.
In the case of Bulgaria. It was the Bysantine patriarch Nicholas Mystikos who crowned Simeon I as Emperor in 913 after he conquered most of the Bysantine territories in Europe and reached the walls of Constantinople. He assumed the title of “tsar” comming from “ceasar”. Later after political changes in Bysantium his title was disputed. Yet his son Peter I was again recognised as emperor also taking a Bysantine princess as a wife. In that regard the Bulgarian Empirial status followed the tradition and continuity of the Roman Empirial tradition. It was not the case they just called themselves Emperors.
Similarly the First Russian Emeror is Ivan IV. He was recognised for equal by Maximillian I ( Holy Roman Emperor) in 1514. Russian Emperors used the same title “tsar” previously used in Bulgaria. Serbia also reached such status in the middle of 14th century but I cant tell you how exatly it happened.
So in general in Europe the title emperor/tsar was indeed recognised as more important than a King.You had to either descent the title as Roman Emperor or be recognised as equal by one. This doesnt mean certain Kingdoms were not stronger than certain Empires in particular time periods.
PS. As you used Bulgaria as an example here are some things that it had going on about it when it was recognised as an empire. Except for the recognition of the ruler there was also an independent Bulgarian church. A recognised partiarch independant from Rome and Costantinople. The state developed its own written language and literacy that would become lingua franca for big part of Eastern Europe. Ofc a significant territorial expance what placed it as one of the three major powers in Europe together with HRE and Bysantium.
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Hopefully the campaigns will be as exciting as the Sicilian campaign.
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I dont want to insult you but this is just blatantly wrong.
Dukes are not Kings in anyway possible. They are not equivelant to Kings either. Thats the whole thing about feudalism, the title systems and ranks. Its the reason why high kings exist, why archdukes exists. Always monarchs trying to be better then others.
Duke is lower rank than King thats just how it is. Empire is higher then a king. These are basic principles of feudalism and titles.
Khan is higher title then king aswell. They are equivelent to emperor. Khan could also refer to military leaders which a king isnt excluded to.
Like you state here that khans are a type of king. With that you insinuate that king is a groupname like a vehicle is the group name of stuff like cars and tanks. A king is not a groupname as what would Willem-Alexander from the Netherlands be? He is king, so he is an entire group, if not what is his title then? If its not a groupname than you agree that king is a seperate title from duke (which is a fact so you would have to agree) and that rajas, sultans and emirs are also not kings due to the religious meaning behind them and the regions they are from. Monarch is the actual groupname for titles like king, duke and emir. If it was age of monarchs we wouldnt have this discussion now. It just isnt as black and white as you like it to be.
But my point was that there have been duchies that were independent from kings (e.g. Brittany, Lithuania). So there were supreme rulers in Europe that held the title of duke (along with the other examples I mentioned that weren’t kings).
Also correct me if I’m wrong but the root of Khan means simply “supreme ruler”, which makes it synonymous to king. I believe they came up with the term Khagan (Khan of Khans) when Khans started ruling huge territories beyond their initial realms. So khagan would better translate as emperor while khan means king.
And sure, monarch is a looser term. But king is more widely used and fits much nicer in a game title. I think that’s the simple reason why they called the game Age of Kings, rather than your unproven hypothesis that it was supposed to be inherently about Europe.
my account reset and I lost that mod. That was my favourite event mod of all time.
Time to change the Slavs to Wallachia (or Romania), since we keep getting more slavic civilizations, when the actual Slav civ is centered around Vlad Dracula campaign.
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I cannot recall who said in the middle ages there are only republics and principates. Dukes, kings or emperors are all the same, it is just a status and hierarchy difference.
But I don’t share your opinion of AoK, it was definitively focus on Europe, most of the factions had a capital in Europe and all the campaigns are in Europe or against them.
AoK was a western game that was targeted for a western market, now we live in different times, but that was the game original spirit… it was and is an eurocentric game, and it is not a bad game despite that decision
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Kinsmen, let us not fight over this.
I will just tell the devs that the next DLC will have to be Serbs and Swiss, and be done with the argument.
Presenting:
Age of Empires 2: Swabs and Serfs DLC!!!
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I don’t disagree with that. The game was definitely eurocentric from the start, I would say both intentionally (i.e. appealing to the western market) and unintentionally (i.e. the devs’ having more knowledge of European history than other places).
But this argument started because someone said that AoK was meant to be inherently about Europe, and that it was only out of generosity that other civs were added, which I find completely ridiculous. I think that from the beginning, the devs have made an effort to include other parts of the world, and they have made an effort to overcome the inherent eurocentric bias they have. After all, there were 6-7 out of 13 original civs that weren’t European, so it wasn’t insignificant.
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Luxemburg and Flanders would be a good option, Merchants of the Netherlands DLC
Flandres is already included in the Burgundians, so is Luxembourg. The whole point of Burgundians, was to finally cover all the Low Countries.
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