Here is hoping. I know AR will be coming on the 2nd of August, ,DotD is a mystery, I will love to have it in August as well, hense im going to abstain from purchasing AR in the hopes that we get such a package when DotD gets released.
I think, we will get news after African Royals expansions release. I mean devs probably want to not overlap hype for both expansions. However, I really expected to see some marketing for DotD already. Like 15 July when Grunwald anniversary happend. Or posts on Facebook with for example random screenshot of AoE II gameplay with DotD unique units hidden in corners of image or something like that.
Aren’t Bohemians and Polish both of Slavic ethno-linguistic origin? So wouldn’t they have already been covered under the Slavic civ already in DE?
You know, I’m trying to tell that to those guys but they seem deaf on that regard.
That’s right. Polish and Bohemians are Slavs. And Bulgarians are Slavs too. But because devs picks what is missing/what is cool/what fit theme, they are adding Poles and Bohemians. Bulgarians are Slavs too.
And it was kind of unfair, that Slavs were huge umbrella, while Britons, Franks, Goths, Teutons, Vikings, Burgundians, Italians are all germanic and have dedicated civs. This may be the sign they will break other umbrellas as well
AoE II has also Mongols, Tatars, Cumans, Turks depsite all those being essentially gameplay similliar and belonging to same ethnic and language group.
Sad to see you really suffering that much hope you good, man.
Sure by that assesment we can have the Huron and Sioux tribes in AoE3 as one civ, the British and the Franks as one civ , the Koreans and the Chinese as one civ, the Tartars and the Mongols as one civ as well as the Portugese and Spain as one civ, hell why not then have the Berbers,Spain,Scisilly and the Byzantines as one civ?
I don’t know if this is sarcastic or not, but I’m not a fan of the direction this game is going. I’m paying 40% more for DLCs with less content for questionable new factions. If at least the DLC would come with new architecture sets, I could excuse it, but I’m like come on right now.
Poles are Slavs, Bohemians are Slavs, Bulgarians are Slavs, Slavs are Slavs… What do you want more? Bosnians, Serbians, Slovenians, Macedonians? Or some other non-Slavs like Romanians, Albanians. They’d all use the Eastern European of course. Doesn’t matter if half of the civs use it, no no, not at all.
Meanwhile there are entire ethnic groups elsewhere with Kingdoms, Empires on vast swathes of lands which are completely disregarded. Representing the ethnic very diverse West Africa, East Africa and India with a civ each is frankly insulting. Completely disregarding North American Paramount Chiefs (blame the British colonizers for not calling them Kings because in regards to power they were) too.
I honestly don’t get FE anymore. They’re like replaying the AOK campaings and saying “Hey, let’s make this a new factions coz it appears in 3 scenarios”. What’s next, Austrians? Bavarians? Romanians? But with no new set of course, because that would require actual effort. A new unique castle just works fine. Doesn’t matter if it destroys consistency, it’s just a selling point for a DLC.
I’m sorry I’m a bit salty but the civ picks are just stupid and unnecessary. I’m waiting for years for North American civs and the only thing I get back is ignorance, hatred and some Eastern European guy pushing the country he is coming from for no reason saying that Mississippians are primitive Barbarians building on Mud (Spoiler: They’re not. They’ve built impressive cities, had frequent warfare and were locally very important like the Franks or Teutons or Maya.). The biggest offender on that regard, Darth Pyro, is temporarily banned at least. If he continues on that route, which I hope not, I hope he’ll get permabanned. Just today I got this lovely comment by srbnems :
Happy now? Or do we need to change legacy content too and cut the Wings of the Hussar just because you feel like it, because you can’t stand seeing other civs using Hussars just because Poles are now part of the game like some of your Forum friends want it. While we’re at it, when they’re inevitably going to add Swiss, let us change the Halb skin for all civs and replace it with something too. Same when they’re going to add the very unique Aquitaine. We don’t want the Magyars using the very French looking Paladin, would we?
This is just stupid.
Rant over. Report it if you want. I honestly don’t care anymore.
Yeah… you see the problem with NA civs are that they didn’t have any international interacion with other major civs. The Franks and Teutons, had enemies as well as diplomatic allies such as the British,the Spanish, Portoguse ,Italy, Scisilly, the Byzantines, The vikings, the Russ, Poland, Bohemia, The Berbers, Armenia, Persia, Mongols, Georgia ,the Sarracens ,and the Turks. Even a civ like the Polynesians had trade routes from South East Asia to south America (Thus I would like to see them added) , but the NA tribes as you said had local importance, and nothing else.
That is the reason why I personally would not buy a NA DLC, but if the devs create it in the future then I hope the ones asking for it will enjoy them.
I never said any of these things, nor would i like any of those, you mixed me with someone else.
And by the way, you were first to disrespect my country and its history saying it is irrelevant and unfit for this game while advocating civs that started agriculture in 1200 CE.
The Early Mississippi period (c. 1000–1200 CE) had just transitioned from the Late Woodland period way of life (500–1000). Different groups abandoned tribal lifeways for increasing complexity, sedentism, centralization, and agriculture.
You are still a hypocrite!
I hope you fell better now with that essay message. I’m not judging you nor I have anything against you, despite you write rude things on my country, gave heart every comment that other people do to just to be rude. Just because I wrote I want to see Poles and Bohemians in game that doesn’t mean I’m extreme nationalist that find other civilizations not important. I just would like to see them, that’s all. Same like you has your civilizations that you would like to see in game.
My message was not sarcastic at all. Certainly more than half of your post that you made are just being rude towards other people, heck even entire country. You already write to me that there are people that are toxic to you, but seeing your posts here or on steam you are doing excatly the same. The problem is that you should integrate with other people and if you see post “I would like to see Poles in game” and you just join conversation just to write some salty message you just split community and people just dislike you. It is sometimes better to leave discussion. Just because someone has different opinion that doesn’t mean he hates you.
You should seriously chill a little bit, because you just act like devs are your slaves and they should do what you want to see in game.
You are too much emotionally here, I nowhere said that I want to cut the wings of Hussar. I made by myself message there that It’s fine as it is. And everyone here on forum are my friend and I don’t have any enemy nor I see to have enemies ( despite there are people that really wants to target personally me for some reason ). Yes, I see that there sometimes situations where other people are rude to you, that’s why I either report them or certainly not gave them heart, because I don’t like situations where people are rude towards other poeple.
I am the one that is asking for this to be added as a Polish civ event reward.
I want to see as much diversity in the civ units as possible. Such as unit skins for African,Mezzo,ME and Asian civs.
The big diference is that outside Burgundians (who were pretty obviously a bad civ choice) every one of these civs is really diferent and werent united in the moment of highest power (outside of Franks and Teutons who are probably the weakest link here).
The Slavic civs people want are represented gameplaywise (except for Bohemians in case they become an archer civs) AND are closely related to the civs that would represent them gameplaywise. Having two diferent heavy cav civs for the commonwealth is just so so unnecesary (and in the case they are an infantry and farming civ we already have Slavs), having both Liths and Poles is already kind of annoying on itself. Bulgarians are also practically Slavs gameplaywise and while super fun are one of the most unnecesary civs in the game.
Either way, these arent the worst civ choices ever (we have Huns already) but yeah, Im really disapointed by the civ choices. Particularly with all the powerful civs out there
I don’t really know which civilization is bad choise or not. You are saying both Liths and Poles are unnecesary because of commonwealth, while there are Franks - Western Franks and Teutons - Eastern Franks both heavy cav civs with farm bonus. We have Mongols and entity within Mongol Empire like Holden Horde - Tartars both cav archer and hussar civs with basiacally one major difference - Mongols have machine gun on horse and Tatars better Tarkan who cost 100 resources.
This game is not AoE III so it is obvious that civs will overlap and they will contine overlaping. And to be honest if the current Poles would get different name and different architecture set you could rename the to whatever you want and there would be no diffence at all.
I’m happy with all civs and I’m also happy that devs have fun instead to forcing themself for addition content. I heard that Burgundians were added because some person in team wanted them in game if they are going back to Europe. And that’s cool. That’s why we have other civilizations, like Celts - probably guys in ES were like: this Braveheart movie is really popular it would be cool to have William Wallace in game. Same was for Aztecs or Mayans, devs found them cool.
I’m hoping there will be some major diffence and civ will be different enough. Let’s judge them when we get any news.
This becomes one of the many threads where the debate is: should we get more European civs or add Indian civs.
While in fact:
They’ve already done that in non-Euro expansions. Imagine the shitstorm if they’d add an African civ in an Eastern European expansion. The Euro civs we’re getting are not even icing on the cake, it’s like they’re forced down the throat.
I know you’re a good guy @Rorarimbo3774 , but I honestly can’t support more Euro civs, not for a while at least.
I explained my view earlier how I feel adding new civs to the game and how I felt in the years. But honestly Im trolling a bit both sides so we dont go in circles. And honestly I couldnt resist after remembering about this meme. So while its a bit of trolling its mean in positive and playful way.
PS. personally I want to see African civs added first (before any indian other Asian or Euro civs)
Yeah those two arent the best implemented civs ever as I have already said. Could have been done better. Tbh at least the Teutons have many more units with bonuses but yeah they could be more unique. Also, Teutons have a much better excuse to be added than Poles with a heavy cavalry Lithuanian civ.
Tatars military wise are actually quite diferent to Mongols. Literally the only one unit they both constantly use are hussars. Either way they are also not a very good civ choice.
Tbh Celts or the american civs dont have any of the problems I have with the other civs.
We already have like 20 European civs. We just want more content for the unrepresented regions and Europe just isnt one of them.
Knowing their track record with civs like Cumans, Burgundians and Bulgarians I really really doubt so
Just to be clear, I think the new civs will be fun most probably, but they will still be hard to diferenciate them from the old civs and I think we should have waited until we got more civs from the other parts of the world first.
Or at least sold LOTW and DOTD together. Would have honestly eased the pain a bit. Still wouldn’t have included a new arch set but at least it wouldn’t have seemed so expensive.
you know what, i don’t care, believe what you want…