AoE2 devs: Please stop trying to experiment and just listen to the community

Oh well, it is only now, that I understand your questions. The Imperial Legionnaire is available from the start in these 2 scenarios. You do not have to perform any special tasks. You can build him in the barracks, like other Byzantine common units.

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It’s annoying to see these short affirmative messages after dozens of full quotes. Sends unnecessary notification, if you agree with some post just like it and move ahead.

When you quote spam, it sends alert notification to everyone. It is waste of time to scroll down your entire quotes. Use the like button, its free, doesn’t cost anything.

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Now, aren’t you the one policing others?

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Sounds like using the Latvians as a stand-in for the Lithuanians but maybe even worse.
Using the Qiangs as a stand-in for the Tibetans would be a better choice, like using the Balts for the Lithuanians.

Well, I would have to see it, but I agree; we also have the campaign of Genghis Khan and Le Loi in which you fight against the Chinese and in the case of Genghis Khan conquering Jin and Song China (and in AoE 4 the same)…

Yes, I do, sorry I was just catching up with the post and I was organizing it while I was answering, I even had to divide it into 3 posts, if you want you can skip it…

That’s true…I think that dividing Malays is a bit complex…me with Siamese and if you want Tanguts (since I doubt they can include the Tibetans) I agree and consider Asia complete in terms of civs…

I agree with him. Don’t quote at least my post if you are just going to say I agree with it.

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Good one. Okay, I will report them. And yours, too, for the same violation. And removed mine to clean things up. Done! See how easy it is?

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I’ve come to think that the mode itself should have been added to the game for free and the dlc should have only contained the new civs and campaigns. It would have made future updates easier, not mentioning prevented players who already bought AoE1 in the past from feeling robbed.

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Ok I’ll take it into account…

Yes, that’s true, they could have left it free for those of us who bought 1 DE on Steam in 2019… I don’t regret buying it, because I wanted to have the entire DE trilogy (and also because AoE 1 classic is unplayable today), but I did hope that they would give it more love instead of abandoning it in 2020…now you have the remastered campaigns with a narrator, but the multiplayer is dead…even AoEO, which is abandonware and is free, has more content and love than AoE 1 DE…

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From my understanding, they’re fine as long as Tibet is depicted in a historic context which is why e.g. Europa Universalis IV is allowed in China.

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Yeah, upset the government and players in CHN will find themselves playing through VPN. But I believe chinese market is too tempting to turn around. Hate that when you do a game on 'em, they’ll checkmate a lot on you. How nice is that games are not for educational purposes.

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From Wikipedia only games that China has banned due to Tibet are:

  • Hearts of Iron IV because it depicted Tibet in modern era as independent.
  • Football Manager again because it depicted Tibet as Independent Country at Present.

I don’t think China has a problem with depiction of Tibet in Medieval Age.

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You really underestimate China. China isn’t exactly USA or Canada when it comes to freedom and propaganda. Is somewhere along the lines of worse than Russia.

Hearts of Iron IV depicted Tibet as independent in 1936. Which it was. Does that sound like the kind of country that would be okay with a Tibetan civ?

https://www.reddit.com/r/eu4/comments/q7sx4h/potential_eu4_ban_in_china/

They may be able to get around this, but I don’t think Microsoft is in the mood for a legal battle for 1 civ.

I looked on Wikipedia, it says that’s only a list of notable games, not all games.

People have pointed out repeatedly that Middle Ages Tibet is fine as there is evidence that the CCP allows games with them in.

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People could point out repeatedly and still be wrong. I don’t think we’re lawyers and know enough about China to pass the judgement of that. It’s up to Microsoft lawyers to talk with the Chinese authorities and see if it’s okay.

I would like to see Tibet in the game, but I don’t think that’s realistic.

Guess what we have a player here from China who regularly plays EU4 on steam (he is my friend)
@SameCylinder301

Besides, Eu4 was never banned in China, the paradox thread you have linked is discussing about request for translation in Chinese. It is not about any bans. Don’t spread misinformation from your Sinophobia.

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It’s evidence, not opinion. Middle Ages Tibet has been allowed repeatedly.

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more like there’s 45 civs already, there is such a thing as too much of a good thing, it has to cease at some point for the game’s sake

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You don’t know what Paradox discussed with the Chinese or not.

Paradox was very open about the fact that there was no discussion and HoI4 was banned without explanation. Everyone assumed it was because of Tibet, but there could be many other reasons to be honest.

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