I think unit balance is important because it adds fun to the game when you have useful unique/special units. At the same time you have to keep the civ balance in check.
But I don’t fear huge balance problems with these proposed changes since they don’t seem to break the balance, especially in cases where a unique unit is less useful and has less purpose than other available units.
I also agree that some of the changes like more HP or less cost won’t take much time to implement and won’t delay the most important issues like pathfinding.
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BALANCE EVERY UNIT PLS. THE DEVS ARE SO BAD!!
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ALL these 21 unit lines need to be balanced ASAP
Everyone needs to focus on this far more delicate issue
instead of Mappools
This is the issue that needs resolving.
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Actually I would be a lot happier if I had a good map pool and matchmaking system, but all the units you mentioned stayed exactly the same, than I would be with some balance changes, but if I was still forced to play maps I don’t like and only occasionally the maps I do like.
So I think the devs do have their priorities right here and I’m pretty sure I’m not the only one who sees it that way.
In addition to that there might still be also some balance changes with the upcoming update - who knows
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So you got it, be happy!
Now on is the time to finally focus on Balance
Because so much lies ahead of us there.
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so tell me, when did this game shift direction and design and focus on unit balance as a priority over civilization balance?
Civ balance and unit balance tie into each other. There is also Tech balance. There is also UT or UU balance. They all should be balanced.
And if it goes on at a snail’s pace, so many units and techs will remain purposeless, unused and/or made into memes.
not always true at all. and you can balance a civ without touching their unique unit or for example the swordsman line that you so badly want balanced.
only in your eyes and because you only care about tournament level play. i’ve literally seen even the steppe lancer used in ladder games at the highest level.
then wait for the balance update instead of necroing old threads with posts that read like a bot spam
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Rest assured balance threads will never get old, until those Balance issues are fixed or unless those topics are LOCKED by mods, for whatever reason.
yeah totally just like the EA buff posts
Which is why I took care to add…
Because some people here always pick fights with me on my threads, my threads are particularly vulnerable to Mod action , for being LOCKED. So I added that condition too.
I routinely face personal attacks if my suggested changes are unpopular, which clearly spoil the decorum of those threads.
And since this one hasn’t devolved into absolute pandemonium, I feel it fair to say that nothing I said here is counter-argued by anyone except for my critics
And guess what. The popular opinion now on this very forum dictates that Elephant Archers are the MOST UNDERPOWERED UU currently. Took a couple months for them to realize what I knew the moment I heard of the EA “buffs”.
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Honestly that most likely has more to do with the way you propose the changes you identify as necessary and not with changes being unpopular.
I still think that doesn’t make it right to personally attack you - dont get me wrong here - but you often don’t seem to be very rational in the way you “discuss” things. If you don’t interact with arguments made by the opposition, but rather state the same things again and again, it’s not surprising that people get upset with you. CAPSLOCKING the STATEMENTS YOU MAKE because they are SO IMPORTANT and you don’t want anyone to MISS THEM doesn’t make it better 
Note: I’m not saying every point you make is invalid or every arguments against you is good.
What?
So in other words: Nothing you said is disputed by anyone here, except for the people who disputed it? xD
I guess you got that one right^^ (or I missunderstood what you wanted to say)
To the topic of Elephant Archers: yes, they are bad right now. The problem is, if they become too strong, Indians might become too strong. The game is in a far better state with EA’s being bad and Indians being okay’ish as a civ (sometimes good, sometimes bad - actually they’re very polarizing depending on map and situation^^), than it would be with EA’s being useful, but Indians dominating.
So while people tend to agree that EA’s should still be better, the balance of Indians overall is a lot more important and that’s why it is good to make changes to EA’s carefully and slowly.
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So you should be allowed to lie repeatedly and often and get away with it, even if this is spreading false information? I dont think so. If you dont like me calling you out for spreading bad information, dont spread bad information.
Saying viper said elephant archers might be okay is false.
Saying flaming camels arent effective vs cavalry is false.
Saying units that viper can literally use in to best the people he plays against are not viable period is false.
The reason you experience so many “personal attacks” is because you lie and you don’t debate facts rarely if at all. You frequently ignore counter arguments and you say stuff like “this unit is bad if it has to attack into a defensive situation like jnto a castle”. As if no other unit has to deal with that problem.
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Maybe it’s because of the way you behave and talk, because like on this occasion, you just rant about what what you want to obtain, you insult people and/or use offensive sentences, while victimize yourself, pretending that the others are the bad guys.
And onestly, that’s the reason why someone important (like a dev) will never take seriously such topics.
I discussed a lot of time on a lot of topics about the balance, and every time there was someone who disagreed with me about something, and we had never reach such levels, we share opinions, we confront each other, then if no one change his mind or it’s impossible to find some middle ground, the discussion just end there and we part ways, without me or the other making a new topics every 2 days ranting about how no one understands the importance of what I’m saying.
EDITE: On a note of self criticism, the only exceptions on which I didn’t accept a compromise, or a different idea, was when I was discussing off-game arguments, like statistics, where the social psychologist inside me can’t remain silent, since it’s not about opinions.
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Ya where did I use offensive statements?
Hijacking black lives matter moto could be seen as offensive to black people.
You routinely ignore people’s questions and arguments, which could be seen as offensive.
You laughed at and mocked me because I got an equation wrong, when you didn’t even know that 2h swordsman had 12 attack.
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#LongswordLivesMatter Is Offensive to Black people?
When Longswords are clearly a fictional unit that is underpowered
Any other instances @DoctBaghi,@MatCauthon3?
Because you are comparing the situation of a unit in a video game to a real life oppression. Think about that.
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This is just the first one that I found here, but there are countless of other post where you use an inappropriate language, post don’t get flagged/blocked for nothing.
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