why should one be on either extreme? full historical accuracy or no historical accuracy. aoe2 is not like that.
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And that is everyoneās point for keeping them the same.
and the same point applies for fixing what a lot of people are demanding. changes to make it more acceptable. a camel civ cannot represent the subcontinent
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Imposing my will? Convincing other?
I am posting facts, I do not need to convince anyone. This is a discussion, I am not trying to get people to vote for me.
Indians already have an Elephant unit, and it is one of the most Unique of the bunch. They are covered in the Elephant department.
Just because you do not like how the unit turned out, it does not mean Indians need a new Elephant unit, that you feel would be more usable.
Historical arguments have been waived, as this was never a game that aimed for accuracy (in many ways it is a Fantasy game), and is not a simulation either.
Gameplay arguments have also been waived, as the civ is already competitively viable, and perhaps even a little too strong.
Indians is also one of the most unique civs in the game, and one of my personal favourites. Changing them into yet another Mass Battle Elephant civ like the Khmer would be silly.
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even people who try to gain votes donāt impose will, they try to convince.
again the same logical fallacy. nobody is willing to make it fully historical, making them overpowered or under-powered, it should be just acceptable to the masses. You are making only one civilization to represent 1.71 billion people, atleast make it good enough to represent them properly.
You are wrong, this would open the flood gates for historically accurate complaints, and if devs have to listen to indian players, they would have to listen to everyone else.
You would end up with a game that is unplayable and unrecognizable from itās original form. You would also find out that it would be grossly unbalanced.
The masses would not support it, and would quickly turn against your opinion.
where are thoes people. Indians are being discussed from when they were added in HD
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So what do you not understand about balanc first but coming closer to AoE2 theam doesnt hurt anybody.
twisting words by saying Simulator or nothing is not not what most of us were saying
And they have not been radically changed since, mostly only nerfed, because the devs seem to be satisfied with how Indians work.
They made a whole expansion of Elephant civs, so people could play those 4 civs.
How do you know what most players whant, most still dont know that mongols got stepe lancerā¦
ok but also you said that theyr UU should be usles cous they are strong is totaly against balanc you are talking about. then UU should at least be usable even if it is not theyr best strategy
It is the logical conclusion of your argument. If a civ has to be redesigned for historical accuracy, then they all have to aswell.
Because the Steppe Lancer was so neutered into being only a strict raiding unit, that it changed nothing for the Mongols. Their game plan is still Siege + Mangudai.
This would be the reverse effect of what would happen to the iNdians, if they got a more pop-efficient Battle Elephant.
No. Karambits, TKs, and several other UUs are never played. they are not supposed to be good. They are supposed top be specialized.
Elephant Archers are a specialized Tank Archer.
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Why using the same logical fallacy again and again?
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where did you find āmustā we said it could be possible.
and where is all or nothing logical. If you only whant balanc then all civs should be able to defete all other civs and they should all get same stuff so they are really balancedā¦
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karabits have a use, TK are being worked on with buffs, and so are other UU boyar letisā¦
Because I personally, will start a million threads asking for it, and you can bet I will muster the support.
If the devs do not act on it, after they do it to the Indians, then they will be hypocrites.
No use at all, just a waste of Gold. Trash-handed Swordsman makes sure the UU is unusable.
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what? they can outnumber milita line and destroy themā¦they are faster, cheaper, can deflect an attack on a castel if they leave theyr sige unportected
In what world? And even if they could, why would you not just use the more cost-efficient Trash-hand Swordsman? They can mass really quickly too.
ok do 
i wont stop you.
balance of civs was changed when they added all the new civs with original dlc and other dlc that came after and game is still good. you act like you have all the answers on while pulling stats from you head that arent ever true
Because all you care about, is Indians, not the state of the game.
This has exposed you as a fanatic nationalist.
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