The game requires upkeep and new civs is what will get players interested in buying. Do you really think competitive players will suddenly not he competitive because they can’t keep in the game with 35 our of 37 civs?
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They have to generate money to pay the devs to fix those issues. Only so long they can work on the game without new income being generated.
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They should’ve added a Donate button 
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Do you guys work in business and software… New Civ packages are not the only way to make money. What kind of software model is it to say every time I need more money, I will just sell a few new civs? They should explore additionally options prior to going down that road. As for competitiveness, imagine saying that about the most played civ (Franks, Britons, Vikings, etc.). Would you feel as if you would be less competitive by not being able to play as these? Also do you really think the game will stop here with new civs? As @CombatWombatt23 said, there has been a demand to have more civs for quite some time, should they have $10 packages for every two civs on the way to 50? So the game will be ludicriously expensive?
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To be honest, even though I love new civs, I think the price tag is a bit high. I wonder how they’ll justify it. Maybe we’ll get some details later on but right now I think it’s a bit overpriced for what it offers, especially considering that none of the new civs has a new architecture set, though still some unique graphics.
It might be an illusion from my regard but it seems to me that they’ve added new scenario editor objects too.
It’s probably a testing ground for AOE2:DE’s potential future DLCs.
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I will happily pay 10$ for 2 civs and 3 campaigns at a time.
Then again, I play MTG and collect Warhammer, which already are huge money drains.
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I was hoping for Cavalry Crossbows for Burgundians. I hope Khitans will be added and have this beautiful unit.
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Don’t get me wrong, I am an avid player. Paid for other expansions etc. I just have been a big advocate for the game and its growth and I just think this is a very poor model. Its like the old sell a software package model vs the pay for a yearly sub or some newer models. I also think the game is still in an infancy stage. They are working on balancing, tournament structure, etc. So when new people come to the game and are playing it for the first time as it grows and they find they need to pay additional amounts to have the full experience/be competitive I just think it will be a turn off.
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And Slavs too) (Slavs = Russians, Poles, Czechs, Bulgarians (they are here)…)
Well, to be honest, I wouldn’t have bought HD if it weren’t for the Forgotten Empires expansion I was really hyped about.
The thing is that the casual crowd wants different things than the competitive one. There has to be a balance somewhere.
Balancing and funding tournaments has to be justified too from the devs from a financial point of view I guess too.
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Eastern Europe got Liths and Bulgarians in the last expansion. It could be better but it isn’t that bad.
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Yeah, Cranequiers would have been more original than a charging cavalry, and also very iconic of the Middle Ages.
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both civs have huge spikes of power for all-in and cheese attacks.
Sicilian with 6 tcs? here take 42 sergeants.
Burgundi with 110 villagers?now they are a heavy militia.
Vineyards: take this 3k of gold if you are starving in late game.
those mechanics are different, but are extremely hard to balance. An even then they are not funny. Minion masters is a tug of war mostly based in luck and pretty casual, so the huge spike of power finishing games is not a big deal. On the other hand in AoE2 it will make the games lineal and repetitive.
I really dislike this design approach, and we will see in february a flood of complains about those 2 civilizations.
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Well, they said explicitly it’s a work in progress. They might change a lot until release.
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Bulgarians lived in South Europe… East Europe got Lithuanians only.
Will we be able to get this new DE as an update for the DE that we already have or we should buy this new one?
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This a purchasable DLC, not a free update.
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I might be wrong but Bulgarians are South Slav people.
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So this will divide the community more and more, so if we want to get new things we should throw the old ones just because the devs add 1 or 2 new civs. I really find these things are stupid and sick things, so if the devs want to add new civs then just throw the old to play on the new with new ranks and new players bla bla bla…in every new civ we will have, this is ridiculous, i even wonder why did they do this?! We already have new 4 civs
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They are not Slavs, Bulgars were a non-turkish steppe people taht conquered the area, and became “slavicized” over a long period of time.
Medieval Bulgarians were not very slavic.
No, it will work like HD, where you can play against the new content, even if you do not have it.
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