Elo rating getting more problems?

[ChuChuBanana]

Hi,
Since the new update of elo. People are complaining more about the elo system. I believe elo system are more broken because of random elo match making. People make new account to boost their elo . 1 day ago i have played 2 2600 elo and 1 unranked player. My teammates were 1800 elo. It wasn’t fair game for all. Last game i have played 1 3000 elo 2 2600 elo 1 2300 elo players vs 3 2200 elo and 1 2700 elo. I believe system is not working .
SUGGESTION
Game should choice players proximate + - 150 elo distance. after 2500 elo it should be + - 100 distance. If you play ranked with your friends. You have to get lower 150elo higher 150 elo from your friend. It should take the center from who creates the game. There is no point playing ranked with noob friends. Ranked means COMPETITIVE game. If player wants to carry his friend.Player should play normal game with his friend. This is the only solution we have.

[WoodsierCorn696]

At higher elo, the difference needs to be bigger. We seen the same at 1v1 elo. The number of players with high elo become scarce, so someone with 150 elo difference at the top is in place on the ranking more close then a difference of 100 elo at 1500 elo, since there are a lot more players around that elo. The main reason why games arent balanced, is because TG rating is fully unreiable, because of bugs and exploits in the past, but the devs seems pretty lazy in fixing and cleaning up their mess.

The issue of premades with a smurf account is really an issue and it is already posted in many other threads. Just one of the posts i made about this issue, this is already discussed in many other threads as well. There is no real need to start a new thread about this subject.

@WoodsierCorn696

Analyses of the ratings - Spotting the issues

After a year they tried to fix this issue. They didnt even fix it fully, since we still have a mess on the TG ladder as result of the past. But the adjusted calculation is also exploitable, like you show with your post. It is already well known in this community that you can exploit the TG ladder using this method.

Since they really needed about a year to try to solve the first issue, i have no real hope on a quick fix for the new calculation. Just to show some (reasonable easy fixes:

1. For premades pick the highest elo and use that elo for matching purposes and for the average elo in the elo update formules. This will mean Doggiemay will count as 3.5k player and this duo would teamed up with and against other 3.5k player.

2. The maximum elo between premades might not be larger then 500 elo (500 is an example). If the difference is bigger, then the lowest elo’s will be raise, so they meet the criteria. With this newly fictive elo for just this match the elo updates are calculated and matches are made. That means Doggiemay will count as 2945 elo in this game. So both will still get match against much better players, and they cant really boost the main account elo any more.

3. This is almost the same as (2), but now you are just limited to 500 elo difference. if the difference is larger, then you just cant team up any more.

4. There are some people suggestion some Log-scale average calculation. This option will kind of have the same kind of results of (2), but for most players this calculation is harder to understand.

5. There might be even more solution, which i cant think of.

Most of these solution looks like they are easy to implement and will at least fix this issue. But in the end i do expect a fresh start of the TG ladder, since the devs still have to clean up their mess of the past. I dont really see another option then just a full reset.