Every time when someone propose civ ideas for Tibetians or Gokturks, there will be obviously non-Chinese players telling that there is censorship.
But after the preview of the upcoming DLC, there are a lot of Chinese players complaining three kingdoms while surprisingly support release of Tibetians.
So I am creating a poll for Chinese players. Will you accept Tibetans/ Gokturk to appear in aoe? If yes, what form should it be?
Make Chinese campaigns. Tibetians and Gokturks will be enemies/allies in campaigns.
Release Tibetians and Gokturks as civs and introduce their own campaigns
I can tell you clearly that most Chinese players don’t mind, and even want to see Tibetan and Uyghurs become two independent civs in the game. But everyone thinks that if these two civs are added, China should change its name to ‘Han’. And do not include descriptions in the game that are clearly inconsistent with the Chinese historical perspective.
But most people are worried that joining these two civs will result in this game being banned in China.
But in fact, I think this concern is unnecessary because this is a medieval game, and the Chinese government has always acknowledged that Tibetan and Uyghurs established independent states during the Middle Ages. There has never been a precedent in history where a medieval game was banned due to the appearance of Tibetan and Uyghurs.
Moreover, AOE2 is not a highly influential game, China is not North Korea, and the Chinese government has no intention of focusing on such a small field.
However, although I say this, I just think the probability of being banned is very low, but not zero. As long as it is not zero, there is still a certain probability objectively, so everyone’s concerns are justified.
Of course, there are also some people who do not want these two civs to join due to political issues. I respect their ideas, but those who hold such strong opinions are definitely in the minority.
But there is a problem that although this group of people is definitely few, if some of them are very extreme and keep reporting to the government, causing public opinion incidents, the government may take action.
As Chinese,I think if it rely on true history and don’t emphasis they should split from China now, I will glad to see Tibetians or Gokturk to be intorduced.As a result,we also heard some stories of these.Like the war with Tibetians in Tang Dynasty.
ehh whats the option for idc. Like if they add it, its fine. I’m more inclined to say don’t really want just bc of all the annoying spread it’ll have to mainstream current day politics and the <1% chance of being banned in China.
The Gokturks are fine, I think, and the Uyghurs can be legally represented by the Gokturks, Sogdians or Tatars depending on the period and religion, so we can avoid the risk.
Based on some statements of the players from China, the Tibetans could be fine as long as the game emphasize they are medieval. If the word Tibetan is risky, the civ could be named to Qiang, the name of a greater group, or Tufan/Tubo, the name of Tibetan Empire in the Chinese Historical texts.
The Chinese could also be renamed to Han or Huaxia so that they can consider that all of those civs are Chinese.
I believe over 90% people (at least) would love tibet and Tangut.
Just make sure it is not voters of DT write for the history intro section. But someone who already read history. But I know it is hard for non-Chinese people to do it due to the language barrier and blind trust of DT history view.
And yeah, at least in lots of videos I have seen people all over the world complaining about 3 kingdoms. It is not about like or hate, it is that people are confused.
Chinese are just like humans, it is not like a different type of animals…
two great choices. any opinions on the Hephthalites? i dont see them mentioned much as the Huns in game are never mentioned as covering also these white huns who existed until 560.
