No, it means they don’t care if there’s a change. If they didn’t want a change they would have picked the “no change” category. People are sick of hearing about it because people hating on the idea constantly bump the topic.
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Until we have further information:
The other points are still standing.
Its a poll with pre selected groups and has no real significance by this fact alone.
You group “idk” and “im annoyed”
And the choices are not ballanced.
A more ballanced option would be “i want devs to make new civs, i dont care about prussia/austria”
- I want world peace
- I want wars to end
- I want world peace and free beer
- I think worldpeace is unrealistric
- No
- Idk/im annoyed by the discussion
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This has been discussed trillion times. Devs just prefered to add Malta and Mexivo to split civs. They did talk about it that they wont happen
I dont see the civ as a problem, as someone else said, it is Germans, not Germany like we have Spanish and not Spain, it has been 20 years now, a change like that is not a minor ones, same goes for Indians (plus wonders/plaza removal).
About Mexico and USA, they should not have been added as main civs in a first instance. USA being in the campaign meaned nothing since it was a specific time frame. Even more when Revolts existed.
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That is a different topic entirely not “more balanced”. The poll is “how do you want Germany to be ‘split’?”, not “what is the highest priority addition to the game?” In that scenario the decision to focus on Germany is already done and the question is how.
People were more than happy to tout all the extremely poorly framed voluntary polls that showed a 50/50 split as evidence that a German split was unpopular. You’re only crying about it being invalid because this one is showing 75% of people are fine with a German split. It would be a safe assumption that people choosing not to answer would be in the “I don’t care” category. The small sample size has far more bearing on the significance.
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These can be done as trivially as a few name changes.
Also as some people hate any new
uniqueness added to legacy civs so much, the split is actually a good chance to separate them out. It is because the devs are so afraid of making such splits that they have to stuff every new stuff fitting or unfitting into existing civs (for example, all the royal houses and Prussian-themed stuff added to Germans)
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I don’t know if statistically speaking, the users of this forum represent the population of AOE3 players.
@vanBladdeck Please do not quote users by pressuring them to vote in a poll…
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No, not really. If its about the way how to split the civ, you wouldnt have included “no”
You need to give an alternative in that poll, because you present an option that adds new content and options that dont. By default you will get people that say “i like content” that dont want a german split per se.
Personally im not “against” a split, its just completely unrealistic and wastes time. The ideas on a “prussian” civ are also straight up delusional and fed on weird nationalistic myths. Sorry guys, the prussia you dream of never existed.
Not really, we only have ekdals answer so far… and according to him he voted “idk” because he thinks your idea is not feasable and thaz devs made it pretty clear, that it will never happen
I didnt want them to take a poll, but to explain what their answer in the OG poll meant. But ok, wont happen again
Hahaha no.
Imagine democracy would work like this…
“Ah we have only 60% voter turnout… i guess the 40% dont mind me as dictator”
It’s like saying “What Latin American civ would you like?”
- Brazil
- Argentina
- Colombia
- Other
- None
None is a perfectly reasonable option in both cases.
So you should have voted “I don’t care”. Against would be if you don’t want to see them ever added, not that they shouldn’t be a priority.
I’m quite confident in saying Prussia did in fact exist. And people making bad civ concepts doesn’t invalidate it.
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“Do u want lemon icecream or no icecream?”
No. I voted “no”, because its the better option to reflect my opinion: the devs said it multiple times now… a german split is completely unrealistic and will never happen. Move on. Discuss something else. No ammount of polls will change that.
Im “not against” prussia in a world where the game has atleast 5 more HRE civs and especially already includes 20 asian civs, 10 african civs and 10 american civs.
True.
Its just very hard to make civ concepts without falling for the bs that floats around in pop-history.
Well, I hope that the result of this thread will be at least that the Developers will analyze potential moves in this subject. Their statement from years ago does not have to be still relevant. I think the voice of the community is important. A lot of ideas have appeared in this topic. There is a lot of material to analyze. The decision does not have to be made now. Assuming that the game will be supported for a few more years, after potential DLCs from Asia, Africa, South America, players will probably be happy to see something from Europe.
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Everything is just summarized in this one phrase.
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Yes, they are all good options…
Yes, we had 2 DLCs from Europe… now it would be time for 2 DLCs from Asia (Persia-Oman and Burma-Siam), then South America (Arg-Brazil or Tupies-Mapuches) and Africa (Morocco and Bormu or Kongo and Zulus)…
Yes, the current Germans would be the HRE (Austria, Hungary after 1526, Bohemia, Brandenburg, hence Frederick the Great), so only Prussia would be missing (Poland also included ducal Prussia in its day before 1525)…
Yes, for some reason in the game, the civ is going to be Denmark-Norway…
Yes, I had proposed those battles for KotM, but they decided to go for more general conflicts… now they made a custom Swedish campaign (Lifetime of War) that is really good and has 9 missions (it goes from Breintefeld with Gustavus Adolphus in 1631 until the death of Carolux Rex in 1718)…
Something is something I guess…
They could do that by putting treasures on the map of France (a relic similar to those in AoE 2) and England (Cromwell’s sword)…
For me they will make a large historical map of German unification (1848-1871) and there you can play with Germans, Danes and French…
Yes, for now Europe is already quite well represented with the great powers, from Portugal and Spain in the west to Poland and Russia in the east and from Denmark and Sweden in the north to Italy and Malta in the south already present in the game…