Guys, let's vote for DLC civ you want

Relax, they will.

Note the name of the DLC - Bufallo (we call the African buffalo, the American buffalo Bison). For this new icons that are African.

The African DLCs are now 100% sure. The Ethiopians are the most famous African civs - they are already in the Historical Battles. Their presence is unquestionable.

The only question is whether it will be a paid civ or a free one.

Relax and expect info on Ethiopians and other Africans on April 10th.

Africa is obvious, I’m more curious about this second unlabeled DLC now. I wonder what it will be.

good because it would mean AOE3 are moving away from including civs that are colonial powers at the time.
Ethiopia was NOT a colonial power.
It means countries that are not colonial power have a chance of being in AOE3 in the future.

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Guys, there are many mistakes about HRE what you have written.

First - German (not Austrian, but HRE), Second - German (HRE, not Austrian), Third - Bohemian (not Austrian, not German, but HRE), Forth - Austrian (not HRE, not German).

I think we must clearly distinguish between German/HRE and Austria. 30 Yrs War effectively ended any efforts made by Austrians to rule HRE as a homogenous state. The war led to complete breakdown of HRE, when the north drifted to protestantism and independence (later ended under Prussia throne), the west drifted to independence or a strong influence of France, the south remained independent on Austria but more conservative and catholic.

But the mechanics of HRE statehood was utterly independent on Austrian policy. Yes, the formal head of HRE were Austrian archdukes. However, the policy of/in Austria was Austrian and was applied to Austrian lands. HRE had its own “parliament” and institutions where an emperor had only a limited power. After 30 Yrs War, however, as I wrote above, the power of these institutions declined into insignificance.

In the game, Germans now represent more HRE, meaning all states in HRE (incl. Bohemia, Prussia, Austria) before or during 30 Yrs War with some exceptions like Uhlans and Needle Gunners. However, they do not fully represent Austria after 30 Yrs war (and in fact also not Prussia).

Adding Austrians into the game means, for me, no need for a huge German overhaul. Some cards have to removed or renamed but the main theme (gold, mercenaries) could be preserved. It would be Germany as HRE, fragmanted, decentralised, colourful area with many states and rulers…

More on HRE here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Roman_Empire

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European non-colonial powers also.

Let me just mention that in AoE3 we also have victims of colonialism: American civs.

Zweihanders, Treaty of Westphalia it applies typically to HRE, but not typically to Austrians.

HRE is a union of Germans - not owned by Austrians.

Those are already all in the game, either as the Germans civ, or it’s Revolutions.
The current Germans IS Austrians, with a dash of Prussia, not the other way around.

Also, making Revolution units into base units is a bad idea, since they are already super-buffed Mercenaries and Outlaws, and I do not think Revolutions need another redesign.

The Austrians ARE the HRE, much more than any other German state.

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Revolution units is base units…

Settlers/Settler Wagons become Grenzers (Revolutionaries with +2 range and 3.0x multiplier vs. Treasure Guardians, and can collect treasures, but have -20% hit points).
Every Outpost/Blockhouse spawns a unit depending on the base civilization:

Germans: Pandour (Jaegers with +10% speed)
Ottomans: Hungarian Hussar (Guard Hussars with +100% hit points)
Russians: Hungarian Grenadier (Grenadiers with +6 range)

The Hungarians do not add anything new, their units are already in the game since the classic version. They just use a different name. They don’t even have their own model.

Admit that you don’t want Austrians and that’s it.

Simply not :slight_smile: You can read for example book below to understand the difference between Austrians and Germans/HRE :slight_smile:

[Amazon - Book about 30 Yrs War](Amazon.com)

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I always asked for Ethiopians, I do not know what you are talking about here.

At least go through my comments, before you “imply” anything.

Admit that you just want a second version of an already existing civ, when the actual civ still left to properly add, would be the Prussians, not the Austrians.

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Yeah we need korea but as minor civ in some maps

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huh seems like JonOil isn’t replying… oh well.

I am not here to entertain you. Koreans are at most a Minor Settlement in this game.

Just because I am not constantly replying, it does not mean you won the argument.

In fact, by implying I am a Nazi twice, you already lost it.

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I never implied it.
I just talked about last times these two different civs were unified as one nation.
Apart from WWII Germany and Austria were NEVER united.
Heck Hungary have more common with Austria than Germany.

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The “cut content” page on age of empires wikia says the planned Italian civ can choose between a few city states to get different bonuses.
Idk how that would work, maybe something like the consulate.

So if one wants to represent the German states more faithfully that would be one solution. However I think that might be the last thing the devs would do in a DLC when they really run out of new regions and themes to add like in AOE2.

I also hope they add some new maps

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You are the only one harping about “great colonial powers”

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Yes, but in the case of Germans and Austrians separately.

The Austrians would have a separate civ, and the Germans would have, like the Italians, a similar situation.

The Germans could have:

Brandenburg, Prussia, Westphalia, Bavaria, Saxony and much more.
Austria should therefore be a separate entity, because the Germans themselves offer a lot of possibilities (the Austrians too).

AoE 2 may get a lot more civs because from what I noticed they are starting to be kingdom based.

Since there are Burgundians and Sicilians, there should be civs from Eastern Europe, eg Poles (and more Slavs power civs), Romanians and more, and Caucasus civs.

Not to mention Africa, America and even Oceania.

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No doubt there would be new maps with the African DLC.

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We have a taste of them in Historical Battles.

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