How can Aztecs beat Otto FI

[AssertiveWall20]

Ottomans are in Desparate Need of a Buff

I’ve been sharing some insights in other threads, but I think it’s time for a separate thread to discuss all the issues with the ottoman civ. The ottomans are such a difficult, micro intensive civ to play. Look at the stats, it’s driving players into lower elo’s because of how difficult it is to play: [image] So what’s wrong? Their best unit, Sipahi, are difficult to get and locked behind shipments. Their villagers train automatically, but what about fishing boats? Abus guns fire a mini ca…

[firstaim7016]

Aztec is more serious.

When Otto has Jan Spahi GB combo, euro civs spam pure goon can HR spahi, bonus against GB, 50:50 Jan.
However Aztec ERK get less speed than Spahi, has no bonus against GB, has negative against Jan.
So Aztec needs to train additional units AK and Oto/JPK to do the same counter, and people are still crying they are top WR so OP need to nerf.

[RatcicleFan]

Thank you for quoting me in this channel, but I don’t see how what I said relates to the topic at hand.

[AssertiveWall20]

I didn’t do it on purpose, I was just trying to quote the whole thread

[RatcicleFan]

Oh lol

Was that the thread where I posted the Vinifrss meme?

Edit: yeah it was

@RatcicleFan

[Kingfisher1787]

We need to be careful with that thread. Some low-level intern might read it, not understanding the sarcasm and see tons of likes on the great balance suggestions. Funny enough, that thread got more likes than most actually good balance suggestions and united the community like perhaps nothing else has in a long while. We might yet see +2 artillery range and Abus AoE…