Tbh what âminor overlapsâ mean is completely subjective, but for example the way the Ethiopian bonus would overlap with extra food eaxh age (something like +125/250/500 food at feudal/castle/imperial age) or something like how currently three civs have cheaper scouts and how Aztecs and Burmese both have extra attack on infantry but despite having a lot of similarities these bonuses end up playing off diferently
Depends on the case.
Basically the important thing is to make overlaps have advantages and disadvantages as well as odeally quirks in how they affect the game
Edit: And also unless dealing with UTs vs bonuses, make bonuses be more broad or more specific depending on the case
50 civs is perfect number for marketing. too many will be bad
Marketing wise ânow with 2 more civsâ will probably always be better than âthis is an old game thaâs no longer expanded upon, but it has a medium-high amount of existing contentâ.
45 is the ideal limit for me and let the modders make the last 3 civis. Swiss Georgia Venice will be enough for my taste unless they sneak in Tibet somehow.
3 african civs next will be a much better option considering africa is huge, needs more civs and their architecture set hasnât been used much. Not only this, here just look at thisâŠ
Let me reply to this by repeating myself
âŠlike the African empires weâre missing which should absolutely be part of this game.
Exactly. Thatâs why the devs should add African and Asian civs, not Europeans where there arenât any important civs left.
This is not confirmed.
Civis that can be added should be added must be added are completely different things based on personal preference.
That is subjectiveâŠ
Africa has plenty of important civs worth adding lol
Qt least better than Mississippians
Well there is not much room left if they donât start reusing bonuses (take one bonus from 4 separate civs for example) or introduce more âstuffâ like upgrades/regional units/game mechanics. Things like this
I disagree with that.
Iâd be happy to hear what you think
Would giving you more civ designs be enough to convince you that we still can design civs without reusing stuff?
Because it seems like people here dont believe what I say
Sure
But I donât care if some stuff is reused but still, shoot
This will take a while btw
| Ugandans | |
|---|---|
| Infantry and naval civilization | |
| Newly built docks spawn a fishing ship | |
| Spearmen cost no wood | |
| Skirmishers cost no food | |
| Buildings +2 line of sight | |
| Team Bonus: Skirmishers +2 vs siege |
| Frontline Axeman (infantry) | |
|---|---|
| Hit Points: 70 (80) | Unit Cost: 65F 60G |
| Attack: 9 (11) | ROF: 1.8 |
| Armor: 5/1 (8/1) | Range: 2 |
| Upgrade: 1200F 800G | Speed: 0.75 |
| Kitara expansionism | |
|---|---|
| <Militia moves 35% faster> | |
| Cost: 400F 200W(although this is mostly to have | |
| Canoe Warfare | |
| < Fire ships deal blast damage> | |
| Cost: 300F 300G |
(This civ could have both as castle age techs tbh)
Missing techs:
| Serbs | |
|---|---|
| Cavalry civilization | |
| Recieve 150/300/450 gold at feudal/castle/imperial age | |
| Scout cavalry, spearman and skirmisher upgrades half cost | |
| Stable units +2 attack starting at castle age | |
| Team Bonus: Units csn garrison at monasteries |
| UNIQUE UNITS | |
|---|---|
| Vlastela (cavalry) | |
| Hit Points: 50 (60) | Unit Cost: 60F 45G |
| Attack: 30 (40) | ROF: 2 |
| Armor: 3/3 (4/4) | Range: 0 |
| Upgrade: 900F 500G | Speed: 1.4 |
| Imperial Hussar | |
| Hit Points: 90 | Unit Cost: 80F |
| Attack: 7 | ROF: 1.7 |
| Armor: 0/2 | Range: 0 |
| Upgrade: 800F 700G | Speed: 1.5 |
| + 12 vs monks |
| Pronijar cavalry(castle age) | |
|---|---|
| <Cavalry archers +2/2 armour> | |
| Cost: 200F 400G | |
| Lazar mercenaries(imperial age) | |
| <Infantry units +6 vs buildings and villagers> | |
| Cost: 400F 300W |
Missing techs:
| Somalis | |
|---|---|
| Defensive and gunpowder civilization | |
| Fire ships cost 15% less | |
| Spearman and skirmisher +25% hit points | |
| Castle age is 33% cheaper | |
| Fortifications fire 18% faster | |
| Team Bonus: Repairers work 100% faster |
| Malassay (cavalry archer) | |
|---|---|
| HP: 50 (55) | Upgrade: 700F 750G |
| Unit Cost: 35W 75G | ROF: 2 |
| Attack: 6 (7) | Range: 4 |
| Armor: 0/3 | Speed: 1.45 |
| +3 (5) vs archers |
| Barawa Architecture | |
|---|---|
| < Buildings regenerate> | |
| Cost: 400W 100S | |
| Red Sea Trade | |
| <Gunpowder units +5 melee armour> | |
| Cost: 650F 300G |
Missing techs:
| Manchu | |
|---|---|
| Cavalry and siege civilization | |
| Villagers work 5% faster | |
| Siege workshop cost -100 wood | |
| Trebuchets are 25% cheaper | |
| Team Bonus: Mill, mining camp and lumber camp +4 LoS | |
| Hwacha (siege weapon) | |
|---|---|
| Hit Points: 50 (60) | Unit Cost: 150W 130G |
| Attack: 10 (12) | ROF: 6 |
| Armor: 1/3 (1/6) | Range: 5 (6) |
| Upgrade: 1000W 500G | Speed: 0.8 |
| Fires 5 (6) projectiles | Blast 0.5 |
| Huihui Pao | |
|---|---|
| <Mangonels, hwacha, scorpions and trebuchets track moving units> | |
| Cost: 300F 400G | |
| Guazi Ma | |
| <Knights, camels and steppe lancers deal blast damage> | |
| Cost: 900F 500G |
Miising techs:
| Georgians | |
|---|---|
| Cavalry and monk civilization | |
| Villagers can garrison at economic buildings | |
| Previous age tecnologies become 50% cheaper | |
| Recieves +50 food, wood, gold and stone each age up | |
| Knights and monaspa cost -5 gold for every captured relic | |
| Monks +1 range | |
| Team Bonus: Monks +3 monk armour, +2 LoS |
| Monaspa(cavalry) | |
|---|---|
| Hit Points: 90 (130) | Unit Cost: 50F 65G |
| Attack: 9 (11) | ROF: 1.8 |
| Armor: 1/2 (2/2) | Range: 0 |
| Upgrade: 1200F 800G | Speed: 1.4 |
| +5 (8) vs cavalry, +4 (6) vs camels |
| Azatravear | |
|---|---|
| < Cavalry regenerates> | |
| Cost: 400W 200S | |
| Devotion | |
| <Monks +1 range> | |
| Cost: 600F 200G |
Missing techs:
Also I have already shared a few others
