I quit DE

Age of Empires II: DE II - Discussion
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Thanks to the community no to Micro$oft.

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Nuff said


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Just play a lobby game on casual speed. An it’s the same as HD Edition. And leave the Ranked for the people that wants to play meta.

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You missed the whole point of why people are responding like this.
Because this forum has recently found interest in posting “DE sucks, don’t buy it” topics while the problems are being solved in each patch.
Yes, we get new problems too, but they usually get fixed.

I’m not saying DE is perfect, it has serious annoying things. I got pissed off by the game today even. But you always see they are taking the feedback and improving the game.

You do understand that your optimism is based on your personal needs within the game and your assumption that everything will one day be superior to alternative platfroms?

The game is flawed, but it’s way superior to HD.
Compared to AoC, I’d say it’s better, but that’s debatable since AoC works mostly fine.

This is your personal opinion. It is better on some parts, but on other parts it is lacking basic features. I have a list in each category; Achievements, lobby, MM, graphics, animations, Ui, Recs, Bugs, questionable features, lacking features, spectating, balance, Map editor
 . So I would not call something superior when you can obviously point out many issues, things that are lacking or way below potential. And don’t forget what some call ‘Qol’ features in DE you can take in question if they really make the game better or if the are just something to please new players.

FE should try to appeal to the most players it can.

Very strange that you said this in regard to MM, because that is definitely not what they did
? I’m fine with a map pool to choose from as long as they don’t force maps and eliminate popular playstyles/player identity. Obviously amongst all levels of play there will be many that prefer controll over maps/ see if opponent picks civ or not. Also regarding TG’s it’s way too ambitiouos, why not just remove that side of MM and give them a lobby alternative? TG’s are much better formed in a lobby, and it’s obvous that consistent fair matching will be impossible for a long time in the current form.

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The game is still getting updates


Thanks for reminding that, I thought this was a fact like what everyone in the other side of discussion thinks about their post.

Why?
Most are happy with the game.

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Civ picking with fixed position is so strong nowadays and so anoying to play against if you play random. Ruins the fun of teamgames, knowing you would kick your enemy if they had even civs :frowning:

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You don’t know what real pain is. Go play Fifa 20

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I never understood sports games like Fifa where they make a new one every year
 like do they change the players names and release the same game again next year?

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I have this same feeling. Never played any of them so have no clue, but that is what I’ve deduced. Completely pointless 11.

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Let’s just say AOE 2 DE issues is like a stubbed toe. Fifa 20 issues is like a missing leg and hand and a small part of your brain. So this post is hilarious to me coming from that background. Maybe you have some validity but its hard for me to take seriously if i’m being honest. As for the reason people by them, some is addiction problems and majority is cause its the only company making that type of game in that genre. Basically holding a monopoly.

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The easiest fix for this is for you to go into the casual games lobby where it has all the stuff you are missing. It was never gone you’re just using the wrong system to play.

Ranked IS more competitive as there are players looking to increase their ELO rating and what not, I find personally I play maybe 2-3 competitive ranked games before I switch to the traditional unranked lobby section, after a few games of ranked I get exhausted so I can understand why you’re feeling so frustrated and angry. As I said go to the unranked lobbies and I think you will have a better time there. Not everyone is made for competitive play.

As for support, AOE2013(or HD as you call it) is no longer supported and isn’t going to get any new updates, the community has moved on to DE as contrary to your belief, it DOES get consistent updates. I mean ■■■■ I have to commend the AOE2DE team for the consistent updates even with all the things going on in the world, it’s great to see.

I honestly just think you are playing the wrong multiplayer matches if it’s resulting in you being upset and frustrated. Try the other modes and let us know how you go, you might find it works better for you personally

Otherwise it’s sad to hear you not enjoying this game as much as everyone else In the community. I hope things pick up for you.

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Yes I am aware that they have lobby for unranked games but majority of the players around my elo and higher are most likely going to be using ranked match making. I am also pretty competitive and I do enjoy playing serious competitive games. The problem I have is that I can’t think of a better strategy than using the most OP civ at the time. For example Goths when they were broken, Cumans when they were broken, Persians right now while they are still broken. Whenever something gets nerfed ill just play the next best civ. Arbitrarily climbing the ladder by taking advantage of DE experimenting with the civs which to be honest should have been done before the game released. In the back of my mind I keep thinking why didnt they just consult the best players in the world before making civ changes? Like with the Goths update Viper had to make like 5 or 6 future of Goths videos completely trolling before the devs finally listened to him. Who is calling these shots? This is the type of game where you can’t just be a creative game developer to make these changes because someone who is a pro at the game will always see more issues than you. So in the end the competitive ladder becomes who can execute the best meta strat with the best civs in the game. Its no longer a competition of over all skill and planning. I used to love watching Vipers videos back when he used to go random because he would end up showing you strategies you have never even considered. For example one of my all time favourites is when he played random civ against TaToh where Viper was Malians and TaToh was Magyars. Viper went full Gbeto but put them in siege towers. He garrisoned all the Gbetos in a siege tower, transported his units right by TaTohs castle and and ejected them under his TC destroyed it in seconds and garrisoned back into the siege tower and went to his other TC. It was beautiful. It was obviously not planned at all the idea came to him in that situation and only because of the random civ he played. That was content. We dont have that now a days. Not only did hidden picks ruin the game for me it also ruined youtube content. Sure watching the worlds top give it their absolute best once a year at hidden cup is amazing but that loses its magic when all year long every single day competitive ranked play is basically the same thing because they are picking civs.

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I won’t deny you the recount of your personal experience but I’ll rebuttle with mine - I sit around 1000 elo, I’ve played probably 100 games online and I will rarely come across the “best civ”. I personally play randomised as well but as I said I can’t speak for others or your personal experience.

That being said civilisations aren’t the be all and end all of a game. Every civ has it’s counter and there’s only a very small amount of match ups where a civ doesn’t have an answer to another civs bonus.

I also don’t think you’re giving the unranked lobby a fair go, you haven’t tried it yet you’re already writing it off as bad.

I get that you just wanted to have a rant but yeah I’m beginning to agree with you, if you’re not prepared to adapt or change then maybe the game isn’t the right one for you.

Let’s get back to basics of gaming. We play games for fun and entertainment. If AOE isn’t giving that to you then it may just be best you find a different game to play. As I said in my previous post, I only play a few ranked games before going back to practise on AI or unranked matches as I find ranked games stressful if I do too many at once. Myself and many others here have suggested other ways to play that might suit your wants more accurately but it seems you are unwilling to try any of them. It’s a shame really.

I wish you all the best and hopefully you’ll come back to the game in the future and it reignites the passion and love for the game.

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I disagree. I hated that I wasn’t able to pick a civ. I want to choose my civ and play style. I also love the random map system because it forces you to try out various strategies. I like it so much the way it is right now, I wouldn’t want it any other way.

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You managed to ignore every argument I made, ironically exactly like my initial point you responded to;

When someone voices his concerns, because the game has imposed a new method where players have no controll over game settings and the game does not respect or even allow what the game evolved to be in the past. That person gets harrassed with one irrelevant comment after another.

Don’t bother writing a response because you’re not worth mine anymore.

@doobey123 You have some serious nerves and disrespect to come here, as an 1000elo player, and call the previously most popular playstyle uncompetitive and perhaps we should find a different game to play if we can’t adapt to the limitations that DE imposed on us.

Your suggestion of using the lobby is not a proper option yet because it only shows MM rank instead of its own ladder. So it’s impossible to only play there and find fair matches.

@takis07 You don’t have to disagree because you like how it currently is, everyone can be happy if the system allowed free choice of settings. A map pool doesn’t mean it needs to be forced, it could be opt in for every map you enjoy. Regarding civ picking the main point is that it’s currently hidden what your opponent does, creating an unfair situation if you choose to go random while the other picks a top 5 meta civ. Obviously when such an unfair situation arrises and 2 players do not agree on the setting, there should be an option to skip opponent untill he finds a player that wants to go random civ.

This is the difference between imposing a certain playstyle or making the system flexible for a big community. The difference between encouraging variety and forcing it.

The main problem is DE, they have created the idea that this is the only way. Either they need to integrate how many on HD/Voobly like to play or make that playstyle possible through the lobby with a seperate ladder. This should not even be up for debate, the only reason that DE exists is because of all the active players that came from those platfroms. It would be common decency not to remove their way of playing.

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Buena The Viper, gran patriarca de las rankeds, fenomeno, cristiano del age sos vos?.

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I got convinced by this reply! Such an amazing way to respond.

Maybe next time try to understand the very fact that dismissing one in a discussion only makes you look like a pure hater without a will to discuss their hate.

But then matchmaking would take way longer if they included every map (or the majority of them)

That’s what the whole post is about: “I quit DE”

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@PacificWheel208

It would help if you posted a quote to specific the exact point where I said “the most popular playstyle is uncompetitive”(not even a word bud).

Its pretty obvious by now that you and your friend are the minority having issues. and no its not impossible. Im not sure what game you are playing but the unranked lobby games are set up the EXACT SAME as traditional AOE2 online. Its not that you cant adapt its that you are unwilling to. You demand the game bend and flex to what you want, the bad news for you is you and your buddy arent the only ones that play the game and unfortunately not every game can be can be catered to every individuals demands.

Its obvious theres no solution for you or your friend, especially considering the thread started off with “i quit de”. Good, head off then, we didnt need you to announce your exit. Its astounding you have the audacity to act like this and waste everyone elses time on this thread because you are just playing the stubborn child.

Good luck with it bud, not replying anymore, Ive wasted enough time on someone whos obviously too thick headed to see reason and work out a solution.

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It’s honestly hard to engage on and stay with seriousness standards with a person that joins debates, with such dilligence, that don’t even regard them. PacificWheel doesn’t even play this game.

Most of time the only thing I can think of is that they’re a troll.

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So I’m not worth’s someone’s time who doesn’t even own the game? @PacificWheel208
Nice job, I am impressed.

Well, someone who has only played the game only during the beta basically has no right to bitch about the game they don’t own. Troll or not.

He doesn’t even own the game 11.
Let that sink in 11

EDIT: No need to bother with a reply @PacificWheel208 as I see you are writing it,
I’m gonna quote you in this situation: