Hello guys, i’m working on a personal mod creating “imperial” re-colorings for all European units. This is the idea: Age V = to 1800s /1850s.
Give me some historical references for uniforms of the 1800s time era. Here some ideas i found.
I will start with Portugal.
Will be looking round on topics on the forum to see if i found anything related to this. Feel free to share ideas, links or info.
Continuing the discussion from Ideas for Imperial Units:
Just an Idea, but what about not putting the timeline to the 1850s, but rather stay on the topic of Napoleonic era and to basically change all imperial units to the armies of the napoleonic era (1800-1815).
So you could play a skirmish game e.g. as the British vs the french in post imperial, and basically play the napoleonic wars?
This feels almost obvious to say but you should go on a civ per civ basis.
Because “napoleonic era” is pretty much the starting age for a lot of the indian units and “napoleonic era” aztec is basically nonsense.
El sombrero alto del cazador, de que unidad es? Si, buenas referencias, estoy pensando en hacer algo asi para portugal
Sure! I just say 1850s (tops) as a reference. I guess it depends on the civs. I did some British uniforms of the crimean war tho.
Unfortunately, that’s more than true, it makes little sense imagening imperial Aztecs or Incas…
However, imo, it also makes no sense “keeping” the landsknecht, pikeman, war wagons or x-bowman around until that time, so imagening that mod would also probably include deleting those units and only keeping around musks and skirms and cav units like dragoons, cuirassiers and hussars…
That said, I think that imagening such a mod might involve much more modding than just some skin updates, so it probably would be a lot of work, but it might be worth it in the end… I, however, only can provide help with historical references, modding is something I’d rather leave to those that are way more experienced than me… but if you/someone needs anything regarding historical sources/possibilities for creating mods, just hit me up 
Enierheler, first of all - how cool 
crimean war period uniforms are WAY underrated!!! And second of all, regarding that the game has 5 Ages, that might even work as well - give them Napoleonic Era uniforms in the IV Age, and Crimean War uniforms in the V Age…
Found that the Porguesse army had blue trousers for winter and white for summer. And deep blue coats.
But I also found these black/gray pants? who knows what are does black ones are for or if it is regarding a regiment or something. Or are they grey?
I think for Portugal white pants and blue coats will be the best general napolinic uniform.
The black/gray look cool tho.
Thanks for the info! and i like these ones, these are good references.
Que modelo/unidad usaste para el mosquetero?
True, I have been doing this personal mod as a hobby of mine for a year (I think) now, but I noticed there is SO much info, that is why I posted this threa, there is peapple that now more than me on this topics.. Again, this is for hobby but may post the mod if someone is interested.
I have done Dutch, Germany, Italy, Mexico, USA, Spain and the British. Guess Portugal is the next one. Lets talk portugal for now.
I have some pictures of some units I’m working on, maybe you can take a look and give me some feedback?
Enierheler, give those units to me I’ll take a look on them We are talking napolenic era for now, I believe?
Yes, Naoplionic era generally speaking.
Some units will not fit this time line though, like the Crossbows and that kind of archaic infantry. WarWagons and some others may also be out of context but it will be cool the community opinion on those too. I took some design liberties regarding the color of some elements like epaulettes, braid, or emblems to Gold in general, this to reflect the “Age V” status and be more game consistent.
Also some coats and colors are darker than its original designs. This for a better contrast with player color and make it somehow more playable compatible.
Will submit some images soon here, Thanks for the time and the support.
Regarding the pants of the portugese - I’m not totally afluent in EVERY portugese regimental uniform, but from this graphic we can clearly see two destinctions, and that is the time in which they were issued to the units
The white trousers with the red sash for the officer are from the 1806 campaign, while the ones below with the grey ones are from a later period, 1814 (a time where fighting the french on spanish/portugese soil was almost finished and Wellington started invading france from the south, via the Pyrenees).
The uniforms here may be exemplary, but might have slightly changed from regiment to regiment or even from the individual soldier. As back then, you would have been issued a uniform by your regiment (that is at least how the french system worked, and many nations at the time had similar practises), but as always in the armies, if you had some fittin equipment that was not damaged, you would wear this one until it basically fell of of you and only then change it to the newly issued uniforms. Or, only wear the “new” uniforms on parade or on the exact day of battle, but all the other times, you would wear the “old” kit as to not damage the newly issued one.
That said, if I was to create such a mod, to historically most accurately represent the time, I’d give them both version of the trousers, so the white trousers as well as the dark grey ones. However, if you want to stick with only one (which just works fine, espescially as I do not know how to give one unit different uniforms), I’d for the complete mod go with one particular year and then create my mod around that period. For a napoleonic themed time, I’d go with 1809, where you had the most campaigns and A LOT of classic battles like Wagram and also the Spanish campaign (the peninsular war).
Regarding player colours, have you thought about basing them off the regimental colours?
As for example on your portugese ones, you can see that the unit has red cuffs and a white plume on their chako. I don’t know how often you play a mirror match with your mod, but me personally, I like to play one nation against a different nation, so to speak, so what I would do is to display the player colour only on the cuffs and plumes.
Back in that time, that was one of the main ways to distinguish units. That, the actual regimental number on their chakos and/or tornisters (their rucksacks) and the colours (the regimental flags) were the most distinguishable options, but this option of the flag is out of possibility for AOE III So, I would go with them to have them most accurate. However, if you’d rather have them be more distinguishable by colouring their uniforms it’s more than rectifiable, it’s 1) YOUR mod, and 2) legitimate regarding that this is a video game where you can play mirror matches.
In got an idea. White for the Base Imperial mode and gray after “Age IV gunpounder infantry upgrade” is sent from the Home City. If that is historicaly accurate, i’ll go for that.
“In got an idea. White for the Base Imperial mode and gray after “Age IV gunpounder infantry upgrade” is sent from the Home City. If that is historicaly accurate, i’ll go for that.”
Yeees!!! Yess yes yes!!! That is the spirit! I’d totally go with that option - therefore, you can “cover” a bigger time frame for the napoleonic era.
It has to be said, the napoleonic era is one of the hardest “modable” eras, as we do have A LOT of sources where we can see sometimes regimental uniforms change not just from year to year, but from campaign to campaign.
Take the french for example, before Napoleons coronation, you would often times see them using two-pointed hats (that is the revolutionary uniform). After he’s coronated and he reorganises the army, suddenly MOST of the troops wear chakos (bc. they are cheaper and more suitable for campaigns), but you’d sometimes see the two-pointed ones in camp or on the march. So, which one do you chose now?
I’m currently pesting SealingEar with modding ideas for 16th cenutry reskins, and the skins here are SOOOOOOOOO much easier to talk about as you have far less documentation on the change of the uniforms (to say uniforms is already a defamation for the time, as uniforms only come about in the VERY late 17th, early 18th century). I just visited the armi&bagagli fiera in Piacenza in Italy and spoke to some reenactors that display the battle of Lepanto in the 1570s, and it’s sooo much easier doing this period as for some 150 years, warfare, tactics and uniforms/soldiers looks don’t quite change. AOE 3 still nevertheless got many of them wrong, but with Sealings help, a lot of the units get much more historically accurate than they were you should definately try some of his reskins (as you surely have) in between your napoleonic modding
SealingEar is the GOAT. He inspire me on starting my own mods.
YES he is!!! <3 Although your mod for the Black Rider also is fire!!! <3 Espescially in combination with Sealings Mods <3 I love to play the 16th century (with Sealings mods, I most of the time only enable Ages I-III and ‘cosplay’ as the Habsburgs/Spanish against the ottomans or the french), so your black riders were most welcome for that!!
Lets do a full-on visual mod for europe. From age I to V. 1500 to 1800s or so. I have so many files done already.
Are You in?
