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Actually, the Moroccans, Ottomans, and Persians should all get the Middle Eastern building set. Besides, the Ottoman Empire did rule over parts of the Levant and the Arabian Peninsula and there used to be an Ottoman fortress in Mecca before it was destroyed by Arabian forces. Not to mention, many of these European nations that were ruled by the Ottoman Empire would eventually become independent or a part of a different empire. Also, from the pictures of the people you posted when talking about settlers, I should point out that Turkish and Persian settlers wore similar clothing, and they still do. In fact, the Turks did get influences from the Persians. Also, about the building set, there’s already many civs with the Mediterranean building set when compared to other building set groups (There’s a total of six civs with that building set). Now I can understand wanting to avoid stereotypes which would be a good thing and that is why I think the Ottomans can still be having the function of European civs while using the Middle Eastern building set. Moroccans can be the function of African civs. And the Persians have the function of Asian civs. The Middle Eastern building set can then have three civs from each of the three continents of the old world.
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But why on Earth would you want to move away from an accurate depiction of a civilization’s architecture to one that is absolutely inadequate and preposterous?
I’ve just shares several, detailed, threads comparing Ottoman, Persian and even Moroccan architectures, and proved how near perfect was AoE3’s depiction of the Ottomans: isn’t it obvious from the pictures they are all very singular from each other, and how realistic how realistic the AoE3 Ottoman design is??
On what ground do you base your claim to have such different architecture as the Ottomans, Moroccans, and Persians share the same pattern? Based on what material?
Yes they did, and? How does that support the far-fetched point that Ottomans shares Arabic or a so-called Middle Eastern architecture? Funnily enough, the actual fortress picture I’ve shared is the one in Saudi Arabia you’re mentioning (Ecyad Fortress)
Again, what does it have to do with Ottoman architecture? Ottomans built much more in their European possessions because that’s where the most clashes occurred, these territories were especially strategic, and because other lands had already megapolises constructed by the previous Abbasids or Mamelukes (Damas, Cairo…)
They still do? You believe people in Turkey nowadays dress like this? Mate, be realistic for a second, just be curious about these countries and google a bit, or watch some news. I’m lucky I’ve been to both countries and countryside people in Turkey look like that:
Now I agree on that, but as I suggested earlier, perhaps the hypothetical rework could then emphasize in specializing the already three Iberian influenced civs, i.e. Spain, Portugal, Mexico, and/or twisting the few aspects of the Ottomans that can be bettered (male settler, house).
I’m less expert on Spanish or Portuguese architecture, and frankly don’t have the time to do research on this at the moment; if a passionate about Spanish/Portuguese/Mexican architecture pass by and could suggest improvements to achieve even better (let’s repeat, AoE3 did a near perfect job) representation, that’d be great
From what you’ve been writing, I don’t think you do, and I don’t think you’re willing to get away of the persistent misconception you’ve set in your mind about the cultures of these 3 civs. Look at the pictures again, read some books, be curious, enrich yourself
AoE3 has the wonderful ethos of giving the best representation of every civs it chose, and I’m convinced they mostly achieved that objective: it would make no sense to backepdal and apply misconceived patterns over near perfect illustrations
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Now that the Italians have been added, if we are to add 2 new European civs now, two of them can be the Danes and Poles.
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Of course,Lords of the Baltic…
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