Indians need MOST of any civ to be split into many civilizations

im pretty sure Cholas relied on heavy cavalry

With Elite Battle Elephant + Cavalier, you already would have enough Heavy Cavalry.

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sorry, i meant that the civ should revolve around heavy cavalry

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prior knowledge from when i was younger

Well, all Indians did field some heavy cavalry, especially in the north, but it really doesn’t seem like the Cholas relied on them that much compared to fast light cavalry, elephant howdahs, and infantry. They did like their horsemen and their lancers, but not really highly armoured. In fact, the overuse of Infantry and Elephants was a common theme in most Indian armies, even of those who were external Persian conquerors, which gave them often a big pace disadvantage. Some did, however import cavalry and camels from Arabia and Syria and maintain a good force (like the Pratihara I mentioned).

Remember, though, the Cholas weren’t particularly good on land battles; it was their naval prowess and trade money that kept them powerful. Even against the Chalukyas (Western) they nearly lost the battle at Koppam and possibly their whole empire till the dead emperor’s brother unexpectedly took charge of the army and won the battle. Later they struggled against the Hoysalas and had to often use the help of the Eastern Chalukya (who were by then also mostly Tamil due to marital alliances and eventually took the Chola throne).

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dang it, my civ idea is like the opposite, you can incorporate scouts but knights are where its at
you can reveiw it here
https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/poll-updated-which-civs-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-game-all-popularly-requested-civs-included
scroll up “a bit”

some unique techs for the new indian civs could be

We need a Mahishmati civilization as well

All hail the true king, Baahubali!!!

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LoL fictional Mahismati Empire of Bahubali movie? :laughing:

Vijayanagar is the closest thing you can get to represent the fictional mahishmati.
Since
mahishmati is defined as a hindu empire with
udaygiri to the north (border with oriyas)
kalakeyas in south (probably referring to dark skinned tamils)
arabian sword trade from west, wootz steel breaking it.
and the main city looks like hampi.

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Kannadigas aren’t any whiter than Tamils, mate :joy: Also Tamil lands were in Vijayanagara.

But yeah, we need a Magizhmathi with unique unit Bahubali who can make human trebuchets across walls :rofl:

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Not a real civ, and this is bad trolling.

It was a joke following from above, where the comment clearly says fictional kingdom. :grimacing:

We need a Mahishmati civilization as well

All hail the true king, Baahubali!!!

And their unique uinit will be chopper chariot! lol

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works for tamils (more specifically cholas)

India is such a place if you split and try to include everyone you’ll find 20+ new civs and still some will feel left out, which is not possible to accommodate at all. But if you try to find the reason for this demand you’ll realize that current Indian civilization is too focused on Mughals that is why players intrested in other great kingdoms are feeling neglected. This was very obvious from very beginning since FE expansion Indians were given middle eastern architecture, camels and gun powder, Taj Mahal as wonder and even the symbol of sun and lion is inspired from Mugal flag.
With later expansions it was tried to accommodate rest of India with new architecture which if you watch carefully has elements from different regions of India- monastery is inspired from east( Kalinga, Bengal, Assam), Houses with high walls appear from west ( Punjab, Sindh), castle looks like it’s inspired fom Shaniwar wada, Pune ( central India ) and rest of buildings are of davidian style. Similarly peculiarities of different Indian kingdoms can be added to represent majority of native Indian kingdoms and not invaders. Even if civilization balance needs to change so be it but will make the game more interesting. Including strength and weakness of native indian kingdoms is the best option.

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You can also have different architecture sets from the subcontinent:

For civs from North-West India:

For civs from East India:

For civs from South India:

For more information: http://ncert.nic.in/textbook/pdf/kefa106.pdf

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Chariots were out of use in warfare well before even the Guptas because they were cumbersome and hard to manoeuvre in front of mounted units and tight infantry formations.

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also the design of indian chariots doesn’t look like war chariots. it’s design with the umbrella is not made for wars:
image
it was mostly used for ceremonial purpose.

egyptian/nubian chariots from the ptolemic era look lot more practical for use in battles:
image

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Chariots in the early days of the Mahajanapadas were indeed used for warfare, but not in AOE2 timeframe.

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Trample damage?
That could solve that issue.