Is anyone else having as much trouble with the 'magical cannons' as I am?

A slightly clearer version, with one unit in mobile mode (where possible) + max zoomed out view.

By the way - I never understood the artillery allegations in this game. First of all, artillery is at the heart of the skirmishes of this period, and given history, it is no wonder that there are more than one type. Two - in the case of the Ottomans, this nation has very few other units.
Barracks- Jannisars.
Stable - Bostanci & Cavalry Archer
Artillery foundty - on top of what’s shown- Humbaraci & Abus Gun (7 units in total from AF, clearly main focus of the civ).

And this configuration in the screenshot is only a compilation and a very rare view. It usually happens that there are more than a couple of types on the battlefield at once. Often times, games are over before anything gets on the battlefield.

Besides Field Gun, Culverin, Howitzer, Horse Gun and Petard there is:

  • heavy artillery from a factory, end game special building (Imperial Bombard)
  • two mercenary units (Napoleon Gun and Li’l Bombard)

If you’re a pro you don’t have to worry about anything because you know it all. On casual level guy might throw few gorse gun and the situation is simple.

Enemy artilley = bad. Artillery = must kill quick!

The accusations that this is a hard teaching are beyond comprehension.



(pond ducks are not artillery)

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Devs who did aoe3, when game were finished, they asked permishin to rename it as “Age of colonization” or smth like that. But marketing did no allow.
Sorry, should be hard to hear, No one looked at age3 as successor of franchise.
It’s more like AgeOfMythology - a lot of fans, but not successor.
it’s not my words but from interview.

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Besides players? Or you are talking about all developers in dev team?

Same goes for Age of Empires I.
2 expands 1s formula in just lesser way than 3 expand 2s formula.

It’s shouldn’t be renamed, so that for once was a good call. Colonization is a flavor of ‘empire’ building in that period. The gameplay itself is 100% Age of Empires. There are few new mechanics but the core gameplay is the same.

None of AoE games are about empire building. none. Maybe after few drinks you could count Europa Universalis or some Total Wars, as such games.
AoEs games are about period-appropriate skirmishes. In fact, by having connection with a mainland home city you have a better feel of having connection of something bigger than your lil military settlement, because that’s what you start in every match.

Even AoE Online is better in this regard. There you had your capital city that was growing with with player progress. Something permanent and accompanying the player from start to finish.

So approaching the title from that perspective makes no sense. III also isn’t about colonization. You don’t get to explore the world and choose where to invade and colonize, you don’t manage colonies or anything. It’s just AoE with colonization background.

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u can think whatever u want. u can check devs interview. Sales proof everything. There were too many changes per game.
I dont say that it’s “bad” game, im’ just saying that the game is different. And devs understood it.

So u should be surprised, why aoe4 focuses on aoe2. Also there were a rumor that T90’s Forest Nothing on youtube bring us Definitive Edition.

So why u surprised, that aoe4 focuses more on aoe2 style?

Where did I say I am?
Also IV is not focused on recreating or updating II. Differences between civs alone are something that hardly comes near even III. Not mentioning infinite resources, walls that can be manned and other things that push the game further from AoE II’s formula.

Where did I say that?
Stop making things up in your mind. I Have no idea what are you talking about.

Besides- try to be more specific. What style? IV style is unique and doesn’t copy any previous AoE game. (medieval) time period is not a ‘style’, at least not thing that comes up to mind when thinking about that word.

Evey AoE game is different. And I explained why there is no reason to rename it ‘Age of Colonization’, even more- it would be a bad idea.

what sales? Compared to what, game that came 6 years earlier in a golden age of both PC and RTS games?

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i did not comment for u but for author of the thread.

Dont remember, the name, they just wanted to renamed it. No I wanted it, devs wanted.

So please, stop answering me for useless arguing. I just described the history and how it was.

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They’re all so pretty. We’re just missing golden gats, rockets, light cannon, captured mortars, siege elephants, sebastpool…

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Yes. And? I’m not saying YOU wanted to rename that game. But there are no ES devs around and you brought it up and I’m responding to that argument (used to prove III is different) made by them, and explaining to you why it wouldn’t make sense.

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Explain it to devs, how did aoe franchise. Not me.
I think they have some arguments, to make this hard decision. No one would ever do “the renaming” cause they wanted…they have arguments and reasons.

U argue to wrong person, u should argue with dev, who said it in the interview.

Aoe 3 is the only game with infinite resources.

Its a completely different era in history tbh. If aoe 3 were a medieval game i’d believe that but that isn’t the case. If you want to play a colonial era Age game there will only be one game to go to.

Why did you even bring it up? You made a post - I replied to it. Give me their private email address so I can email them with that, if you don’t want to heat it, lol :smiley: It’s a forum for discussion. You wrote a post, for some reason, you don’t want people to reply to it?

I think you misunderstand what a discussion is. I’m not arguing with ‘you’, because I don’t know you and have no idea who you are, I’m replying to presented statements and arguments regarding AoE III’s title.

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But that is not true. Age of Empires Online had it. Also do farms (or sheep spawning or other types of that thing) in IV run out of food? I don’t think they do, so not that’s 3 out of 5 games.

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You are making dumb assumptions again. They clearly cost a resource to reseed like aoe2.

I’ve asked a quesiton if they do because I don’t remember any reseed button and didn’t even focus on that aspect.
Plus there are other types of permanent food resources, like with Mongols. Do their sheep spawning costs food?

What dumb assumptions I made before?

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Lol don’t worry its a public forum so you can just ignore him.

Heres a good feature you can use on him btw:

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So why are you trying to argue a point that you can’t even back up? You cant just say resources are infinite if they literally aren’t.

I pointed out that’s you’re lying that III is the only one in the series, I’m playing Online literally atm and that is not true. What point? I asked a questio nabout IV.

You have a problem I can help you with, did I hurt you?
People can ignore also you, let’s stop talking for some other people.

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you got me, aoe online the completely dead irrelevant game also has it.

It’s not dead Age Of Empires Online - Project Celeste
100% free and even more content.
Original game was badly managed and shut down after few years without any real attempts from MS to rebuild it. But what that has to do with anything? So yes you lied about III as the only one.

Please point out other ‘dumb’ assumptions I made earlier. You are acting childish, cowardly and extremely immature. Announcing ignoring somebody.
Heres a good feature you can use on him btw
That showed me, lol.

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AoM has infinite resources, too. AoE2 is outdated in many ways that exclusively AoE2 players often don’t realize.

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