Yeah you get a big net nerf vs manlet vs before, its a 1.35 multi after dessert terror
I mean the upgrades are kinda being unmuddled since they were afftected by almost nothing
also as noted by someone else the azap is in the same situation, being a heavy infantry foot archer.
But also note that azaps are not musket infantry but mayan javelineers are.
Thanks for the buff but if the enemy makes 10 Horse Artillery in age 4 then I will still die.
We need increased range and more siege resist, just like the Arrow Knights. Only having 10% siege resist and 22 range does not help much against artillery.
Also why the nerf to infantry and Cav, the unit is already 2 pop. Huaraca are essentially worse Abus Guns.
this is pretty weird for an AOE3 faction.
Jaguar Prowl Knight:
Now benefits from Combat Promotions
They used my idea!
I have to say I’m very pleased, it is a good addition, is historically precise and synergizes very well with Healing Dance, making you want to conserve ant thus heal your units.
However (always there are a however), a ROF promotion for Otontin Slingers works wonderfully for them. When they have descynchronized attacks they lose less shots, making them much more effective in combat (without making them OP).
And, if we remember Aztecs have hybrid units (JPK is halberdier/skirmisher), give them a card (with cost increased, if is needed) for give them a bonus against Light Infantry.
Exactly, what are they? Red Coats? Grenadiers? British-only Highlanders? I would vote for this option
I think they are Black Watch Highlanders
I ain’t gonna lie: literally yesterday I was ending these guys (Prussian Needle Gun) and needing those helmets.
I’d hope. I don’t want them as Red Coats, but for unique Highlanders are beautifully designed.
Yes, they really need the imperial upgrade, shadow or not,
This’ll be a big boon to grenadiers.
Okay better spy availability even to native civs
Excelent for dutch since envoy production is no longer tied to town center
Poor Malta they don’t have horse cannons
okay…
Much better, gotta take advantage of their high armor and speed now.
Now it might be worth it to have these cards
I’ve been thinking about proposing giving back british guard upgrade or giving them Halberdiers, sometimes you just need melee infantry.
I think that’s too strong already. merf it to the ground
Shtel warriors were bad enough already, and now you remove the one advantage they had?
This will not stop the prussian/Austrian debate I guaranty it
About time
Okay, interesting to see the russians get the ottoman treatment
Okay makes it better
You didn’t change United States name.
i think the nerf for the shotel not is ok because etiopia dont have a skirm in age 2 what to do now only gasgenias? shotel are so slow to catch light infantry i think they need remove that nerf because that destroy the unit
Russian, Aztec and Haudenosaunee updates are everything i was waiting for. Thank you very much!!! When the PUP finishes i will return to the game. These changes are inspiring.
They’re still being punished for being OP years ago. enough though they’re pretty weak now.
Sweden could use a late-game counter to mass goons since veteran crossbowmen would become obsolete and Jeagers aren’t enough.
Yeah, If anything they need to be buffed to fight ‘light infantry’. Not heavy infantry Jags and slingers are enough for that.
Obviously they should be affected by some upgrades, but it should be consistent with other similar units. Either all the javelin throwing guys are foot archers that benefit from Infantry Breastplate, or they’re all musket infantry that benefit from Socket Bayonet.
I forgot about Azaps, but they’re already classified as hand infantry, so having the foot archer tag doesn’t give them any extra Arsenal techs. It does let them benefit from some good native techs though. The fact that they benefit from Somali Jile Daggers is a bit concerning since it lets them do almost 100 damage per second against cavalry. That tech could also be an issue for Maya Javlineers if they get the tag too. Maybe they need to moderate it like they did for Urumis.
Can someone screenshot and document all the new model changes?
Will consulate units get the RG upgrade effects of their corresponding prototypes?
they are not classified as hand infantry, if they were they would get double effect from infantry breastplate. they are only foot archers
like in terms of like unit looks I can see the idea for it but like as for upgrades it has very little impact I feel.
there are also other javelin throwing units, though not many that doesn’t fit into any of these like the eagle scout, which is only infantry and neither heavy or musket or foot archer, but it is an archer. The erk is also kinda on the same boat.
The form of the unit shouldn’t matter that much unless it acually changes their role in combat. Mayan javelin being both foot archer and musket infantry doesn’t do that.
Azaps are pike infantry (AbstractPikeman tag), but there aren’t any techs that benefit them.
Only the Kraton Guards card of the Indonesia revolution. Of course, it is not available to Ottomans.
yeah thats a seperate tag for multipliers of the mounted rifleman, the one we care about for upgrades is AbstractHandInfantry which they do not have
