I think the Nerf Is oki but if the Buff the Unit at same Time, because shotel warrior Is only good in age 3, can’t fight vs cav and they are More slow than chimu runner AND the coyote from aztecs AND incas, Etiopía dont have a skirm Unit un age 2 so they can’t deal very well vs heavy infantry AND ligthy infantry plis comment and Let me know how you can help to Buff this Unit now hope a dev can read this too or some one send it to them
My idea ti Buff this units are
Give them More armor
More Speed
Oh remove the nerf
It’s true my friend Sepoy guy ended up humiliating him yesterday in 1v1 testing the Pre Update, a large part of it was that the Shotel makes bad exchanges now, he should get a speed of 6.25 yes or yes. Maybe increase armor by 15% but not in ega second but in age 3 or 4
Shotels were weak
Useless for raiding
Most players prefer oromo warrior
I think they could buff them a bit
I don’t know why they are going to make them worse
I’m okay with Shotels to not being lancers anymore, but this change absolutely obliterates them as a viable unit. If they’re not going to be lancers then they should be a raiding unit like Steppe Riders instead.
The heavy cavalry role needs to do the following:
Counter light infantry
Counter artillery
Raid your opponent’s economy
Shotels can do the first thing but are abysmal at the latter two because they have low base attack, are slow, and aren’t very tanky as a 1 pop unit.
Give Shotels x1.25 versus Villagers and slightly buff their siege attack and they’d be a solid unit. With those changes, Ethiopia could actually do some raiding which would be a much needed change.
The change in multiplier changes how the fight works now any Heavy Infantry composition from the opponent is gonna very hard to contest as there is no counter unit for the HI tagg .
If anything they wanted to nerf this unit lower the hp amount by 5 .
I’m torn on this because arguably a unit that only really has heavy infantry as a counter in age 2 probably shouldn’t counter heavy infantry (put simply, in age 2 the majority of civs can only counter melee shock infantry with muskets or pike type)
but on the flip side, I also think it made the unit unique and was the only answer Ethiopia had to heavy infantry age 2 by default. Desert archers are your only choice now I guess. Maybe thats intended.
Shotels were never a counter to heavy infantry, they still got soft countered by heavy infantry. But it was close enough that they could almost stalemate while the meagre amount of light infantry you could muster could actually win the fight.
If they going to go the route of making them more like the Asian style cavalry instead of a Lancer then they should at least give them some multipliers that let them raid as effectively as that type of cavalry.
i dont know why they will only nerf the unit and dont buff them, I think they are giving them the wrong ideas for balancing the unit, dont know who are they listening to
well gasgenias and devish they are now in the combo because i always play shotel and gasgenias, the match vs russ is hard now you know because you cant play shotel gasgenias now now you need age up with dervish if you wanna play vs heavy infatry and the best age up the etiopians have is habesha
So if they’re going to nerf Shotels into the ground can we at least consolidate their upgrade with some of the weaker cards? Every other age 2 upgrade affects 2 or more units or attributes, but the Gascenya ones only affect one attribute of one unit.
Gascenya Damage - Gascenya get +15% attack (age 2) Gascenya Hitpoints - Gascenya get +15% hitpoints (age 2) Hand Infantry Combat - Shotel Warriors get +15% hit points and attack (age 3)
Some examples of age 2 cards from other civs:
Warhut Warrior Hitpoints - Aenna, Tomahawks and Forest Prowlers get +15% hit points Infantry Attack - Pikemen, Halberdiers, Skirmishers, and Rev Sharpshooters get +15% attack Musketeer/Grenadier Damage - Musketeers and Grenadiers get +15% attack
To make the Ethiopian cards comparable to other civs you could consolidate the 3 cards for Gascenya and Shotel Warriors into 2 cards:
Gascenya/Shotel Damage - Gascenya and Shotel Warriors get +15% attack (age 2) Gascenya/Shotel Hitpoints - Gascenya and Shotel Warriors get +15% hitpoints (age 3)
It would also be nice to get some improved icons like the new Shotel card. Instead of crossed guns and swords, some of the crossed weapons could be spears, shotel swords, tomahawks, etc. The arrangement of the weapons is enough to indicate what the card does.
If they only have a small bonus versus light infantry then they are more like the Asian cavalry (Steppe Riders, Naginata Riders, etc). But those units have either extra multipliers or much higher attack that makes them capable raiders. If Shotels had ~x1.25 versus Villagers and a bit more siege damage, then they could occupy a role similar to Steppe Riders. They’d only counter light infantry in battle but would have the capability to effectively raid and harass the enemy economy.
That still leaves Ethiopia extremely vulnerable to early heavy infantry, but Shotels still get soft countered by them even with a multiplier versus all infantry.
Remember the shotel warrior just have one upgrade card in age 3, so Buff the Speed Is oki, they can Buff other things like they can raid and kills vills More Easy oh just give them 15% of More armor
Gascenya Damage - Gascenya get +15% attack (age 2)
Gascenya Hitpoints - Gascenya get +15% hitpoints (age 2)
Hand Infantry Combat - Shotel Warriors get +15% hit points and attack (age 3)
Musketeer/Grenadier Damage - Musketeers and Grenadiers get +15% attack