Steppe Riders do almost double the damage against Villagers (after Mongolian Scourge) and more than double the damage versus buildings. They’re also cheaper, faster, and tagged as a siege unit so they hold up well against building fire.
So no, Shotels do not have higher dps when raiding. They only do about half as good at raiding as Steppe Riders.
Xbows are also available at the War Camp in age 2 for Ethiopia if you age up with Portugal.
Is More better the desdert Archer, x-bow can’t counter heavy infantry with too much hp
xbows are kinda trash and have always been pretty trash. I cant think of a scenario where I’d spend all that influence to enable them instead of just using my res on default units and shipments
yeah after mongolian scourge and you most people dont even need that to raid around
what does this have to do with raiding? a good raid unit is there to hunt around for stray vils
most civs just raid with hussars, which has less damage per pop then the shotel
But the shotel can’t raid and with the new patch Will be trash AND they lose vs cav AND they are More slow they need something too no only Nerf
I think they should give them nagi multipliers, since there are some gimmicky units out there that aren’t heavy infantry but have high HP
Dont know what you mean with that, but i Will tell you shotel warrior Is very bad killing artillery, raiding AND they are slow
Ever played against Japan or Sweden? Their eco is half buildings. And being able to siege down garrison buildings is hugely helpful when raiding.
yeah and how many civs in the game have cav with high siege going around attacking shrines and torps and taking down outposts? there is literally only 3 and one of them is after age 3 only. China, hausa and russia doesnt even use that tactic against japan and swedes.
and by the time in the game where the situation of taking down forward outposts even come up, by that point it doesnt even matter anymore.
Wrong hausa have a cav in age 2, china have the same cav un age 2 so In the game we have 5 cavs with good siege you are wrong
The 3 i was refering to are the steppe rider , the hausa raider and the opri(which is only available in age 3).
What other cav with high siege are you refering to?
The desdert camel AND the siege Elis from india in age 2
yeah here is the dirty secret about the desert raider
They have less siege per pop then the shotel
and while the flail elephant has high siege, they aint exactly a raiding unit are they
Well desert camel can do a better job raiding you know because they are More faster AND they have siege damage in meele
yeah then give the shotel the same speed as other hand shock infantry, whatever, but they weren’t lacking any damage that was preventing them to “raid”
even with that siege damage in melee, the camel is deal 17 damage per pop
The shotel with melee damage is dealing about 12, its a 5 damage difference
and finally if the camel is good, then people can use them instead cause you know Ethiopia can always make them
I only dont Whant the Unit ve come trash, the Speed AND the 15%more armor Will be fine because the shotel Is More for thank the damage tu for your comments too
Yes they are. Just compare them to the other shock infantry.
Chimu Runner 20 damage per 1.5 sec
Coyote Runner 18 damage per 1.5 sec
Shotel Warrior 16.25 damage per 1.5 sec
Giving them a x1.25 vs Villagers only puts them on par with Chimu Runners.
The camels are trash so that’s a bad comparison.
it should be 15.6
ok in this comparison then how much is a stepee rider base then?
or even compare it to a hussar per pop.
im ok with giving them the same speed as other units but damage wise they are about the average, its the other units that has unique traits that allows them other stats.
It would be pretty annoying if Gascenya hp got moved to age 3 imo. Without it in age 2 they get one shot by cm town center fire or tc fire + 2 outposts.