I’m the other way around, my winrate with them is really good. Agree with you, Harbor should be a thing as soon as you reach Castle Age and give them something else as UT.
The awful Stables should be their thing, they have the only viable Elephant in 1v1 games because it’s cheaper, don’t make it OP
I consider FC elephants to be my default build order for any map with walls, or is closed in, at least when I pick Malay. Malay would also be one of my top picks for water maps.
I personally use them as an immediate follow-up to the Elephant rush in a lot of cases, to counter the almost inevitable Pikes. I have found though that it is better to just continually create elephants in a lot of cases.
Yes. To be honest, I don’t really consider Malay to have a problem. It’s about timing really, if you want to make use of the bonuses/UTs. If you miss the elephant rush, then the next big powerspike is probably going to be really lategame trashwars, where the THS becomes so good. Of course, they can win and stuff outside of that, those would just be what I would consider the main powespikes making use of their bonuses and techs.
I think that’s one of the important points. Malay look like they are intended to work with the timings, but it doesn’t work out like this. Imo this is what should be adressed.
One reason is ofc that often the techs after an aging up are actually more costly than the aging up itself. So it isn’t as much benefitiial to hit the next age earlier if you don’t have the eco behind to get all the techs right away.
FU THS is better than last armor lacked Champion. Champion is little better in melee fight but it is countered by even mass Skirmisher. Also THS doesn’t need expensive Champion upgrade. Goth Champion is good because it is supported by Huskarl and 100% creation speed. 65 food THS doesn’t feel better than 80 food generic Hussar. Decreasing food cost to 55 would be pleasant buff. Food is very valuable resource in the game. Converting 20 gold into 20 food isn’t great bonus for a Imperial Age unique tech. Forced Levy also very expensive tech which is 850f 500g.
In theory, the Dark Age to Feudal spike can be momentous, because of the extra villagers trained in relative safety. In practice, the Malay require sharper macro skills than any other civilization, because you simply have not accumulated the resources to easily exploit the time advantage.
i just laugh because the one change i have seen him propose is so outlandish and borderline silly that it would be awful.
he wanted the kipchaks for other players to cost 95 gold each.
why would i buy kipchaks at 95 gold?
It’s not what you say, but how you say it. It seems some people are incapable of disagreeing without making snide sarcastic comments. I’m quite happy to get shot down; i even conceded on this thread that it’s probably just because my win rate with Malay is bad. So it’s not that i have a problem with people disagreeing, it’s that certain people literally never say anything positive and honestly it’s tiresome / borderline abusive trolling. A discussion starts, then it goes in a different direction and it’s interesting. Maybe the original suggestion was no good but the follow up suggestions in the comments might be. And when certain people only ever say negative things, you begin to wonder what they’re actually doing here, aside from to cause trouble.