Are you getting pay to brainstorm ideas for “how to make AOM more successfull”?, No?, then why?, just go play Warhammer my dude
Nobody here EVER thought, “you know what, what this game need is YET ANOTHER fantasy elve’s history”, what’s next?, “the protagonist should be a highschooler who wields the power of a demon”
Super interesting, refreshing, I never heard it before
I think you did not get my point, the goal is not to adapt AOM those new pantheons but to create AOM style pantheon out of those
For example if I take the elves example, there should be added through the more corresponding mythology you could, some one already said that they’re in the Norse culture, so you could have a pantheon dedicated to them with their specific major gods etc..
You can find 4 mythologies that have elves in it which could be a basis at least to create a pantheon where the army would be composed of those elves and with their myticals creatures (finish, slave, nords, celts)
The issue many people have here is that you think I want to add lotr inside AOM which is not
I would like however to have pantheons faction dedicated to some of the creatures as they are in the mythology
It would be really interesting for me to know!
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There are already fantasy rts, there is one for warhammer, one for Lotr(battle for middle earth) and one for warcraft, why do you want to copy them when AOEM is actually unique in using the mythos of past cultures?
You also put example of total war warhammer, you know what happened there? A lot of old historical titles players stopped playing total war, since warhammer III it looks like CA doesn’t know how to make a historical and people are angry at CA. A lot of new people came to the franchise true, warhammer fans and what not.
The problem here is, rts is already a niche genre of videogames so I don’t know how much traction that would gain, the warhammer rts didn’t gain many players. And I don’t know if you were refering to a majority of people on general in the world, which then it could be, but a majority of AOEM players I would bet that you are not talking in the name of the majority
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What do you mean?
You got 1 like on your suggestion and the first reply from me saying that it’s a bad idea got 12 likes at this moment.
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Exactly
1000 percet spot on!
It does read like you absolutely do want D&D or LoTR added in AoM, with stuff like Pelor or Bahamut or Lolth or Äule or Melkor as major gods, and the orc horde from WoW and all that.
If that’s not what you mean, and what you want is closer to what I have described.
Where dwarves (which already exist for Norse) could be turned into a dwarf version of the berserk, instead of a human berserk, as a simple aesthetic variation. And that way, by playing as thor and making the conscious decision to only rely on dwarves and dwarven berserks, you can larp as a dwarf kingdom.
And elves being added as a dwarf alternative with their own berserk variant as well for Freyr.
If you actually meant that, you may actually be right in saying that a lot of people would like that.
A lot of the typical fantasy tropes are already in the game. Dwarves, as mentioned, trolls, giants, undead, tree people, giant birds.
A Celtic pantheon could add goblins and fae, as well as druids (which would closely resemble the stereotypical wizard if they do an actual celtic druid rather than the D&D druid.)
However, it absolutely does not seem like that, when you write about an entire pantheon dedicated to elves.
That would mean an entire rooster of gods, buildings and units.
That would not be mythology anymore. Mythology implies there were a significant amount of people in the past who believed it exists.
Some people will claim Atlanteans are Fantasy, but since there are quite a few people out there that believe Atlantis existed for real, even when Science so far doesn’t confirm it, I’d argue it counts as mythology.
That’s not true for Middle Earth or Faerun.
Orcs are also not mythology. They are a hybrid of goblin and ogre Tolkien came up with. He took the name from the epic of Beowulf, where it actually refers to some demon, about which pretty much nothing is known, because that part of the original text is damaged.
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Players overwhelmingly enjoy fantasy, a fact strongly supported by the massive success of franchises like World of Warcraft, The Elder Scrolls, The Lord of the Rings, StarCraft, Final Fantasy, and League of Legends, among many others.
If the primary goal for AOMR is to drastically increase its player base and move beyond being a niche title, then AOMR should embrace fantasy elements rather than adhering strictly to mythological accuracy. This fusion of mythology and fantasy has the potential to transform AOMR into a truly massive game.
The choice to evolve (incorporating fantasy alongside mythology) or to stagnate (maintaining strict mythological adherence) ultimately rests with the game’s developers. The current player numbers already reflect the consequences of this decision.
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The Game isn’t even mythologically fully accurate. It is a pop culture approximation of mythology, which greatly helps in bringing in people.
But bringing in an orcish pantheon with Gruumsh and Melkor would alienate more people than it would bring in. I guarantee you that.
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People overwhelmingly enjoy modern warfare settings, therefor we should add assault rifles, tanks and helicopters to AoMR!
People like different things because they are different. People don’t want every thing to be the same.
Would you want superman to appear in every single movie because he is popular?
If you make the thing that is popular you have to directly compete with all the other games that make the same thing, which will be a lot.
I think the franchise should try making a fantasy based game, but this game should not be AoMR!
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The only thing is to keep the game style and theme, but it’s already a fantasy themed game
So modern warfare would obviously not fit into it
While northern dwarf kingdom could be cool, focusing their mechanics on gold ressource
Thats the thing, its mythology based not fantasy based. Not all fantasy is mythology. Harry potter is fantasy, and its very very popular, should we have a wizard themed civ? The warhammer (very popular indeed) you quote its based on futuristic tech, should we have spaceships, guns? A game doesnt have to cater to all things that are “popular”. RTS itself is a niche itself.
Applying “rule of cool” to something" while disregarding what doesnt fit to justify it. Mythology in this game is human focused, you travel earth in the campaign not a distant planet or alternate world. You see how humans interact with the gods and other races, you battle giants, befriend dwarfs all through human eyes.
Warcarft, warhammer, LotR all of it has abamzing stories, lore, characters but that doesnt mean they would fit each other where you to mix them.
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Not everyone has the same idea of what is completely out of place and what isn’t.
Just because you think it fits into the game doesn’t mean other people have to think the same thing.
This is not an objective topic, it’s subjective.
It’s like food. You can’t force feed your favourite food to everyone else and expect all of them to like it to.
Warhammer is fantasy, Warhammer 40k is SciFi. 2 different franchises with some thematic overlap.
Yeah I don’t think Harry Potter fans want to have Warhammer in the same game.
I think most fans of most franchises don’t want random crossovers besides with that one franchise that one also happens to like.
Most people can probably imagine a few crossovers that they would like but for each of those there are probably 10 crossovers that they would hate.
People having different preferences, who would have thought.
Honestly it’s not going to happen, before you think about fantasy there are at least 10 mythos pantheons to add to the game, so I don’t see why the developers would go out of their way to add fantasy to this game, there’s plenty of content to be added from the mythology!
I’m going to be blunt, but you can hope all you want, your desires will remain in the realm of dreams. What’s more, there’s still the possibility of adding at least 10 pantheons - we don’t even know if they’ll be adding just 3 more - so frankly, talking about fantasy pantheons is pure FANTASY ! 
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Ohh my bad then, got them tangled.
Yea, thats my point, just beacuse 2 things are popular and even of similar genre doesnt mean they should be mixed in.
Indeed which is why most of this started with a “speaking for the majority” Even with the poll now its clear it isnt.
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Even I have never allowed myself such stupid impudence. LOL
“Such stupid” though on other topic you’re glad they added the undead from the northern mythology…
So you find it stupid except it is something you agree with?
Draugr are mythology, Drow are not.
There are Swartalfar in Norse Mythology, but those aren’t the same thing as the Drow from D&D. They may be loosely based on them. But in actual mythology, it may be (is not entirely clear) they’re just a different name for the Dwergar, meaning the Dwarves.
Yeah as well as ogres, elves, etc.. They most come from mythologies
The topic is initially about adding them more into the game
Like adding Nidavellir, the dwarf kingdom, with gods etc
It would for this example another Major god to the Norse faction
Exactly!
100 percent of agreement with this!