I could easily duplicate that list, maybe even triplicate it with some creativity.
Anyways, the Karni Mata was a pretty novel idea when it came out, it was the only economic aura in the game. The effect got reused so much after DE its impact was diminished in hindsight. It ironically just became a more mediocre wonder that feels underwhelming.
After I figured out how wonders are coded, even moddingwise there’s dozens of effects I could come up with, the main issue is that, yeah, having the literal Taj Mahal built in the middle of nowhere is kinda silly.
Understood, though by power it’s just a one-shot research tech that you are applying to a building - the ‘power’ is just but the mechanic that exists already via the AD civs (an ability that can be activated within the UI). I’m just using that term for reference, as I’d 100% would want to avoid fantastical elements. It’s an one-shot upgrade to make an existing building superior to the others by getting your villagers to improve it.
Ultimately it’s unlikely they will change it though I hope they add future Asian Civs that can work around it.
Yes, but in the case of The Asian Dynasties, the Asian civilizations play on the Asian continent (since the dlc is set there), so it’s okay that they can build the wonders…
In my personal opinion, countries representing Southeast Asia may be more suitable for mechanisms beyond wonders. Historically, the great buildings in Southeast Asia were mostly religious, and a large number of similar buildings were not an interesting decision. At the same time, I noticed the characteristics of Southeast Asia as a region where multiple civilizations intersected, and they were influenced by both Confucianism and Mahayana Buddhism from China, as well as Hinayana Buddhism and Hinduism from India, The influence of Arab Islam and European Christianity,Perhaps countries in this region are more suitable for developing new features based on religion, rather than following the existing mechanisms of Asian countries
As for the idea of joining the Kingdom of Korea, I have always opposed it. Joining the Kingdom of Korea during this period was almost an act of disdain for the definition of hegemony, just like saying that the Gambia could compete for hegemony with the United States and the Soviet Union, which is ridiculous
Southeast Asia has the most option for visually striking wonders though. You’ve got things like the Schwedagon Pagoda and the Golden Mount, just to name two.
Also, Joseon Korea is 100% worth it if only for the unit roster, their military was so unique.
Nah I think 50% of the existing Asian wonders are already forced into the game. For example Torii gate is not even a specific building, and rarely exists on its own beyond shrines.
So it’s easy to hand pick or make up some wonders so that they are not all the same type.
If it were just units, they should have appeared in the form of mercenaries or indigenous people. During this period, the Kingdom of Korea lacked communication with the outside world, regional influence, and even mere ####### and pawns between China and Japan, without ever successfully resisting foreign enemies independently. Even the controversial Malta maintained its independent political status before Napoleon, while the Kingdom of Korea was only a political ###### of China. Please do not use the Imjin War to defend the Kingdom of Korea. The essence of this war is Japan’s challenge to China’s traditional East Asian hegemony, and the Kingdom of Korea is only a battlefield
It should not be correct because the so-called “purely for the sake of political correctness”. Please conform to the objective facts of history. This behavior is like claiming that the Gambia, Uganda, or Liberia during the Cold War were the third hegemonic countries that could confront the United States and the Soviet Union. If a game with the background of the Cold War says that you use Uganda to dominate the world, do you think the game is reasonable?
I agree that countries such as Myanmar and Thailand in Southeast Asia are suitable hegemonic countries. They have challenged the hegemony of neighboring kingdoms at least multiple times, as well as the rule of Europeans from the sea. However, the Kingdom of Korea is only a political subsidiary of the surrounding countries. Since it is a game based on historical background, please face up to the objective historical facts of this period and do not rely on emotions and false propaganda
Sure, they were isolationist. But what of it, Japan also was isolationist, and sure, they were a “tributary” to China. So what, most of Southeast Asia was, too.
If anything I’d say you just have some weird anti-korean agenda.
Japan and Korea have different policies. They have always had militarism ambitions. They have repeatedly tried to challenge the traditional ruling order of the East. They are de facto independents. Even during the Tokugawa shogunate period, they also invaded the Ryukyu Kingdom and attacked the Hokkaido natives. Korea was a qualified conqueror in the second generation, but not in the third generation. This is an objective fact
What I oppose is the excessive elevation of status in violation of the historical facts of this period. Similarly, I also oppose that the Khmer Empire in this period, as the main body of the hegemony war, became a subsidiary between Thailand and Vietnam in this period; Similarly, during this period, the Filipinos were de facto controlled by Spain and the United States, and they should not have gained a dominant position. Malta was only because of its emotional power, and a hegemonic country should at least have a considerable degree of conflicting independent politics over a multi powerful region during this period
In terms of political influence, the Haudenosonians represented the indigenous forces that coexisted and opposed early North American colonizers, and their failure demonstrated the control of North America by European North American colonizers; The Lakota people, on the other hand, were representatives of the indigenous forces in the United States’ westward movement, symbolizing the last resistance of the North American indigenous people. Their political expression was quite obvious, but I cannot be represented by these political influences in the Kingdom of Korea
I personally don’t want civs focused on religion. It’s a super weird stereotype for TAD to base itself on, and I wish the TAD civs would be reworked to not focus so much on religion.
I don’t really like giving civs Asian consulate options because to me the point is to ally with foreign, distant nations, rather than just your neighbor.
I had Portuguese, Russia, French and Dutch, don’t quite remember the justification for Portuguese and Dutch, so I guess United States could fit in there, assuming United States should be a consulate option which is also kinda weird but not that much (?).
They also sent several military campaigns against the Jurchens on the northern border in 1491. The campaign, led by General Heo Jong, was successful, and the defeated Jurchens, led by the Udige clan (Hanja: 兀狄哈), retreated to the north of the Yalu River.
You have the subsequent conflict between two factions resulted in violent purges (1498, 1504, 1519, 1545), having a specific pattern[4] among the political purges that occurred in Joseon from 1453 to 1722 (whose traditional number is twelve for the period 1453-1722)
The Joseon army consists of the central army and the provincial armies. Each is made of peasant soldiers, cavalry, pengbaesu and gabsa elite soldiers, archers, and artillery. The king appointed their generals.
The Joseon Navy consists of two types of main warships, the panokseon and the turtle ship. They also utilized small vessels and fishing boats for reconnaissance and landings. The king also appoints their admirals.
The Naegeumwi were royal guards defending the king, queen, and ministers. These were soldiers hand-selected by the king. The King’s Royal Palace Gatekeepers, the Wanggung Sumunjang (왕궁수문장) were a royal guard unit tasked with defending the gates of the five palaces and Hanseong’s city gates.
I am simply opposing the status that should not be given to inappropriate individuals. The Kingdom of Korea was a powerful conqueror during the Wang dynasty of AOE2, but during AOE3, from the 16th to the 19th century, they lacked regional influence. Do you know the historical fact that the unincorporated Jurchen Ulaab clan, the ########## defeated the Korean army with 500 people and 10000 people? My attitude is very clear. A country should be a country with regional influence for a certain period of time, or at least a core country that has initiated a certain historical event and has a certain symbolic significance
In history, the role of the Korean military in resisting and resisting enemies has been extremely limited, and the spontaneous formation of the Korean people’s uprising army is the core force that truly resists invasion. You may say that the Korean uprising army is also a part of the Kingdom of Korea, but I want to tell you the cruel fact that Lee’s Korea regards the Korean uprising army as an obstacle to its rule and has carried out cruel executions and exiles on it
As for the army of the Kingdom of Korea you mentioned, what I know is that after being reorganized into the Qing Dynasty’s Eight Banner Army, they became a reliable army and even participated in the Far East conflict between the Qing Dynasty and Russia. However, in the Imjin War, some of them surrendered to the Japanese invading army, while others assisted the Ming Dynasty’s military operations. However, they were not a military group with independent operations. In the subsequent Manchu invasions, The core of its resistance to aggression is also the spontaneous uprising army formed by the Korean people, rather than the military of the Kingdom of Korea
Of course, if you must like this kind of country, it’s not impossible, but for countries in the same situation, I may prefer Irish people. Although they are under British rule, they never stop resisting. The Easter Uprising and Irish famine also have world-renowned influence
Since there can be the Kingdom of Korea, its influence is much higher than that of the Irish in the Kingdom of Korea, the Egyptians and Armenians in Ali Pasha, the weakened Malians in the 15th century, and the subsequent Kingdom of Sanghai, independent Mapuche people should also be added, as well as the Adar people who emerged in the Battle of Dagama
Since the conditions can be relaxed, it can also include the pirate community of New Providence, which had full influence in the era of great navigation
The story of a unique and independent pirate kingdom is much more interesting than traditional countries
Perhaps we can establish a new independent papacy? Is there another Habsburg dynasty that does not have a state as an entity and represents joint rule over most of Europe?
Mapuche, Mandinka, and Somalis would all be great civs to add, as would Koreans. You’re being facetious, but we already have Malta, the dumbest of all possible civs, so Korea is at least an order of magnitude more influential than that.
How funny it is. I found the machine translate system cannot distinguish which “朝鲜” I am mentioning… Both Joseon and North Korea are written as “朝鲜” in Chinese. So, if you see “North Korea”, maybe it is mentioning Joseon, not the modern country.
