My own concept of balancing Ottomans, and other suggestions

[Kingfisher1787]

@OperaticShip743

The mosque generates less XP in Age 1 (from 0.80 to 0.50). This is reset in Age 2.

Something I did mention a while back was maybe the Mosque should be nerfed to the same rate as the Church.

@OperaticShip743

Sipahi with area damage reduced by -1 in Age 3 (currently 3) (Resets in Age 4)

I could see reverting their ranged armor back to 10% as a better option. I’d also like to see Imams cost coin again. That’s an indirect nerf to both Sipahi and Mams.

I had also suggested the below: I actually don’t think massive nerfs are required to fix a lot of the issues. My suggestion on Mosque Construction basically nukes the Mosque FI, the card nerfs hit everything by 5% and their culvs by more (which would help other civs counter artillery masses). And very importantly I suggested nerfing their vill training rate which nerfs literally everything. If I was going for a more direct nerf of Abus gunners I’d actually consider nerfing their range. Currently their range is 18 → 19 → 20 → 22, but that could be reduced to 17 → 18 → 19 → 20.

@Kingfisher1787

Ottomans

• Mosque Construction (III) changed to “All unique Ottoman Mosque improvements cost less 25% less. Economic improvements cost an additional 25% less.” (Down from all costing 50% less.)
• Topcular (III) increases Artillery Trooper, Grenade Trooper, Great Bombard, Falconet, and Horse Artillery attack and hp by 10%. (Down from all artillery as the third category and +15%)
• Enderun School (III) improves Janissary, Azap, and Nizam Fusiliers attack and hitpoints by 15% (down from 20%).
• Acemi Oglan School (IV) only applies to Janissaries and Nizam Fusiliers (down from all Ottoman heavy infantry).
• Ottoman vills train 2 seconds slower.

Regarding French, I actually kinda like the idea of moving Wilderness warfare to Age 3. Mostly because of native builds. It’s also a 20% card on multiple units so I don’t think that’s unfair.

I wouldn’t move Old Guard to imperial however. I’d just nerf their armor a bit. They could have either 55% RR, 5% MR and 5% SR or 50% RR, 10% MR and 10% SR. You could also up their cost slightly.

Regarding TC and Estates, I like having both at 500w more than nerfing TCs, although if you got your way it’s help me personally as I’m a port main.

I don’t like the TP suggestion. I think it hurts a lot of civs and no other prerequisite building exists in the game. It’s more complexity and feels messy.

@OperaticShip743

Akincis: Now costs 500 coins, but sends 10 horse archers.

Please no. Please no. Please no. This card is super annoying. If anything I’d say +0.5 against vills (down from +1x) and deliver 5 Cav archers for free.