How are they in the “wrong” and how did they fail? Looks to me like a standard “ideas discussion”, nothing about “right or wrong” or “trying or failing”, unless I’m missing something obvious?
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Perhaps Im just using dramatic language. Anyway Ive been a civ crafter longer and my seniority means I know the mechanics better. If someone has better more fitting concepts than mine I guess we could put them in charge of crafting ideas and AGE work instead of code/art or anything else