Simply: Elephant Archers are now worse than ever.
One buff and several nerfs have been given to a very situational unit.
Elephant Archers are way less tanky
Die to Halbs easier
Several civs lack key technologies for them
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These changes look cool.
Iām glad weāre getting a couple of frequently requested changes 
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Bengalis get parthian tactics and last archer armor. Also they get the UT which is equivalent to thumb ring. So their ea should be quite good (also less bonus dmg as civ bonus).
Btw parthian tactics might now give ea +4 instead of +2 vs pikes as they arenāt a UU anymore but archery range unit. If so theyād be a lot better vs pikes.
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But EA civs dont get Parthian Tacticsā¦AT ALL right? 
How they massacred my boyā¦ we were just seeing EAs a few times in BF tournament, nowā¦ all hope is lostā¦
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Massed Elefant archers was super lame in imperial age in 4v4 teamgsmes like on black forest.
I am glad they hot nerfed a bit but made cheaper. Exactly what was needed
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Man I was thinking, what if Burmese got Mangonel and Scorpion projectiles 25% faster, so archers canāt dodge easily it?
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Did their gold cost get cheaper? Then Iām all ears
Yes happy for Madrasah and Orthodoxy being kicked out. FINALLY 
Not happy for how they put the Ele Archers in Steppe Lancer hibernation
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Generally these changes look good, expect for Burmese Elefant rams getting even more meele armor.
Good luck beating these with a civ thaz got not even FU halbs
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Man like more than half of the civs have halbs, and even Aztecs and Viking donāt have problems vs that lol.
Eles are slow.
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Amazing, I love to see Tower glory being restored. Towers were beyond overnerfedā¦
Sicilians in control now
YESSSS! We have been asking most of these FOR YEARS!!! 
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Bengalis do. The other two dont. I mean I guess gujaras wonāt use them either way and dravidians have great skirms so probably not a lot either.
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This is sadā¦ Bengalis and Dravidians both should have EAs as one of their go-to units considering they replace the FU HCA of the combined Indians previouslyā¦ These two civs are literally themed on using Elephants especially Ele Archersā¦
Overall if you see the techtrees, it is a nerf of 3 pierce armor and 50 HP atleast for both elite and non-elite. In return the cost is only -10 Food apparentlyā¦
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Still MUCHHH better than the non-performing asset that was Madrasah
Devs listened to our complaints with some of the UTs finally
Atleast Saracen SOs have something unique now
Also Zealotry in Castle age!
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Has the Nerf to hauberk being compensated to some sort of buff to serjeants or other aspect for sicilians?
Also Is the donjons increases in HP as well as feudal towers?
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Tbh Hauberk itself was a huge buff to Sicilians that made it an even more wierd civ. I think they wont get any compensation here.
Hopefully Donjons and Serjeants been buffed tho
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Another victory for the āmore camelsā platform.
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15% is actually massive for Trebs, because with 200 DMG and 150 PA, in Treb Wars they needet exactly 3 shots to take one another, and with +30 Saracen Treb will be able to shot down enemy Treb with just two shots, making it one of the best Trebs for Treb Wars (beside Briton and Hunnic)
Funny, I sugested very similar efrect as additional effect of GreekFiee for Byz some time ago.
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This does sound broken on paper. I dislike how they still havenāt nerfed Mayans.
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Vietnamese Top Forrest Nothing Civ now!
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I mean thats kinda historically accurate
And no one playes FN anymore its all about BF and Arena 
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