New Balance Changes Thread

Let me ask you this. Do you think the leitis would survive as is if they made it a stable unit? I doubt it would. The fact is that ea havd been proven to be absolutely strong when massed, as such it makes absolute sense that it gets nerfed when it becomes an archery range unit.

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Theres no competitive civ without a power unit. The Hindustani bonuses arent strong enough to both allow a civ without q power unit be competitive and make them S tier

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Gurjaras getting melee armour on ele archers makes them as much of an ele archer specialist as woodz steel makes Dravidians a cav specialist 11

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And they gain regeneration, faster attack speed, a 25% food discount, among other bonuses. Besises. Missing thumb ring is going to have minimal impact on elephant archers.

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Both Dravidian and Bengali ele archers are going to be fine I think.

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Gurjaras, despite their lackkng upgrades still get a 25% food discount which will definitely help.

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This is a UT and no onw ill actually research that one since its not worth it, just like no one does Maghrebi Camels or Berserkergang.

Anyway, Love the burmese change, MORE ELES AND MORE BURMA two birds in one stone!!
Love Battle Elephants
Love Burmese civ finally getting a possibility for a better winrate

In all fairness +1/+1 eles for free is better than giving them ele archer and pray they can survive until howdah.

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111111 XD right this will make Burmese top civ.
They still will be trash.

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I know, but atleast devs showed Burmese some love.
And atleast in castle Age they can use Ele meatshield vs the Xbow spam that completely dominates this entire game.

It makes me happy that devs are listening and giving the right civs buffs, and removing nonsense bonii.

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Except the weakest does not necessarily always mean that it is weak. Vietnamese Elephants after the Chatras buff are strong enough. Gurjara Elephants do deserve +1/2 armor the least

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Good news. They get +4 melee armor. And a 25% food discount.

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Every civ gets to have their version of the regional unit be very much viable till now.
Gurjara Elephant Archer is simply unusable. Laughable stats infact.

Those two bonii are meaningless on a unit like the Elephant Archer. Considering these Ele archers only get 2+2 PA.

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Against melee units they are usable, but versus ranged units they are complete joke.

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Yeah. Go look at malay. Cheaper but lacking armor.

Now look at gurjaras. Discount and big melee armor.

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I guarantee you only Halbs and Camels will be attacking them in melee. Other units will just avoid them. So in melee too they are trash tier…

4 pa on a unit with 280 health. Means they take 6 damsge from arbs and require 47 shots to die.

And 25% discoint on food for a food heavy unit is bad.

You heard it here guys.

Food heavy units getting A steep discount on food is a meaningless bonus.

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except Malay get -40% off on BOTH food AND gold and that too for FREE not as a UT
whereas Gurharras get only -25% off and ONLY on food and ONLY as a UT…

Mind blown?

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Are the gurjaras truely intended to go ele archers when they already have like a million unique stuff and bonuses to other units? I’m pretty sure they are included in the tech’s effect only for completion’s sake, just like Dravidian aren’t a cav civ just because of woodz steel.

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Wait, Vietnamese have the second strongest battle elephants though? Strongest is Malay if we take cost into account, otherwise Vietnamese is the strongest no?