Historians will come to agree that the beginning of disappointment was around the period of the xbox platform implementation as well as the importation of aoe1 under ROR.
What all of these have in common: seriously, who asked for these??
I wouldn’t go as far as blaming the devs for being lazy and such. We don’t know anything behind the scene or who left and who joined the dev team/managerial team. But the result is that I feel underwhelmed.
Apparently the DLC costs $13 USD. For recycled content. After they lied to us.
Beyond embarassing.
I think they should add at least 1 or 2 real new campaigns to this pack before the release. This is the only thing now that should reduce the damage to the community.
Unfortunately, at least in my eyes, the larger damage was lying to the community. At the end of the day, they can put out whatever they want for whatever price they want. The community needn’t purchase it unless it’s a good value proposition.
But them lying to us shows they have no respect for the game or for us as a community.
And to be clear IDK if “they” refers to the devs or microsoft, or both. Maybe MS is issuing commands and the devs have to do what they’re told to keep they’re jobs. I appreciate that, and if that’s the case, I don’t hold this debacle against the devs. But whoever decided that they should lie to us has done the real harm to the community in my eyes.
13 eur is the price tag for a standard DLC. at this price I expect 3 full campaigns at a minimum, and then some to make up for the lack of new civilizations. A 13 eur “campaign”-DLC would probably have to contain 5 campaigns, or 3 campaigns and 10+ standalone scenarios.
Look at what content creators predicted and how they reacted: SotL predicted 3 campaigns at 7-8 eur iirc. Ornlu was visibly disappointed by this announcement
Communication with the community has been awful for the entire duration of DE. At no point was there an open dialogue of what’s needed, what should be fixed, what content we would like to have added
Altogether it was an very bad stream, much of the users constantly showed their displeasure in the chat with thumbs down and other nasty smileys. Age of Empires 3 also received almost no mention.
Overall it seems to me, that Microsoft offers the developers a lot of freedom, which means, they do not care, what happens with the further development of the game. Professional people with real interest, would otherwise not allow such a bad presentation from dumb, inexperienced guys…
If this continues, I think the game will fade into insignificance.
I wonder if the original scenario creators get a share of the profit when their creations are being sold now
the original creater was the guy who was coaching the presenter when he was playing. seems to be that he is employed by microsoft in some capacity
it was just super cringy in general
what the fuck was that seckualized pan-up on medusa? why the hell would anyone care about the pupils of a model in an RTS?? and the fake ethusiasm throughout made me gag
(edit, that misspelling is intentional. for some reason “fuck” doesn’t get censored, but the synonym for objectify does)
I’ve never played custom campaigns so it’s all new to me. I read that five are supposedly brand new, is that not true?
yeah it’s 5 new >scenarios< not campaigns. so more like historical battles. but the pricetag of 13 eur is a complete rip-off
so actually im not so sure about that. I think the scenarios are the most costly bit, and TMR was $15 for 15 scenarios, so $13 for 19 doesn’t seem completely ridiculous, tho it absolute does feel cheap that they’re just recycling and polishing existing scenarios.
Personally I’d have been willing to let it slide if they hadn’t lied to us. That’s the unacceptable part for me.
animations for new units, destruction animations for new buildings, complete sets of voicelines for new civs can’t be cheap either.
I am not going to recognize this as 19 scenarios. it’s 5 new scenarios.
even then, these scenarios not having any connective tissue is a huge let-down. that kind of story telling is what makes the campaigns so good (especially the lithuanian-polish-bohemian one)
yeah, i don’t want to go down the rabbit hole of value. That’s in the eye of the beholder. I’m definitely sympathetic to the view that it’s steep, but that’s not what I’m personally upset about. I’m probably splitting hairs when I probably needn’t to.
I’m upset they lied to us. Personally I’d boycott on those grounds alone.
no, I agree with you. This entire thing is shitty on so many levels:
-the lies/false advertising
-the price tag
-the precedence of making community made content paid DLC (let’s see if they remove the old versions of scenarios)
Honestly, I would rather have more new civs to play with. Some regions already need a bit more representation. A DLC that gives us nothing more than some workshop scenarios is a waste IMO.
nah, I’m glad that they have stopped the civ bloat (for now), but this cash-grab DLC must not be the way forward
most likely not
theres TOS for mod I read once like 3+ years ago, all of our uploaded mod belongs to microsoft they can use how they deem fit.
I always thought something like that is to prevent IP legal issue when comes to new/successful genre but looks like they put a good use to their TOS
I wanted campaigns for civs without it.
I wished even a new or ported campaign for ROR.
I was willing to pay this price tag (and I already bought it because there is a discount, I can afford it, I like single player content and I love the game and franchise) but it think that’s clearly, not only too expensive, but also lazy and dishonest, to include mod based content in profitable content.
I am disappointed, and that’s sad, coming from a franchise that accompanying me since childhood.