New civlisations for the subcontinent

[Rowschank]

So here are my suggestions, obviously I haven’t thought out individual bonuses yet.

The current Indians becomes Rajput (second thoughts below), but also inherits properties of some proto-Rajput empires like the Pratihara Kingdom and loses some other features (like shore fishing rate).

• Cavalry Civilisation
• Knight Line reintroduced but no Cavalier.
• No THS or Halberdier
• UU: Rajput Lancer: Fast horseman with bonus against infantry units (medium cavalry, not too different in attack and armour compared to Keshik)
• Castle Tech: Syrian Cavalry: Mounted units get either extra HP or extra speed
• Imp Tech: Talwar: Mounted melée units do +3 pierce damage (On second thoughts, the idea is good but I think the real life impact in imperial age will be useless as most units have 3 or more pierce armour, so maybe a simple bonus damage of a new ‘Talwar’ armour class, or a much higher damage output, ideally +10 pierce damage, at a very high cost, might be situationally more useful)
• Team bonus: Same as now
• Wonder: Kirti Sthamba at Chittod fort
• AI Players: Prithviraja, Harshavardhana, Nagabhata, Chandragupta, Bappa Rawal, Man Singh Tomar, Jayachandra, Rawal Jaisal

Vanga/Magadhi, encapsulating Pala and later Sena but also other eastern kingdoms including Kamarupa and Kalinga, perhaps

• Elephant civilisation
• No Camels, but Knights (potentially Cavalier? available)
• Shore fish bonus of Indians transfers here
• UU: Trunk-flailing Elephant, attacks all units upto 2 tiles in front + splash damage surrounding it, or something similar.
• Castle Tech: Nalanda: Research techs at University, Blacksmith, Monastery, and Castle cost 60% lower resources
• Imperial Tech: Airavata: Elephants can run (increase speed by a lot, maybe 100%?)
• Team bonus: Monastery works 10% faster
• Wonder: Somapura Mahavira
• AI Players: Mahipala, Ramapala, Anantavarman Chodaganga, Narasimha Deva, Bhaskaravarma, Vijayasena, Yayati, Kumarapala

Tamils, for Chola, Chera, Pandya, Samudhiri, and Pallavas

• Infantry and Naval Civilisation
• Hussar, no camel, only knight
• Ships have 10% more HP and speed; Fishing ships can fire low-attack arrows
• UU1: Urumi, ranged infantry with long flexible sword attacking all units within range (sort of like scorpion bolt but with the sword instead) with bonus against foot archers
• UU2: Imperial Fire Ship: Tankier Fast Fire upgrade in Imperial age
• Castle Tech: Pandian Pearls: Fishtraps generate food and gold
• Imperial Tech: Garrisons: Urumi can be made at barracks
• Team bonus: Barracks are 10% cheaper to build
• Wonder: Current Indian Wonder (Brihadeeshwara)
• AI Players: Rajaraja I, Rajendra I, Kulothunga III, Mahendravarman I, Narasimhavarman I, Kadungon, Rama Kulasekara, Mana Vikrama

Karnata, for Chalukya, Rashtrakuta, Hoysala, Vijayanagara

• Monk and Gunpowder Civilisation
• Camel but no heavy, Cavalier, Hussar
• Infantry Armour Upgrades Free
• UU: Matchlock Shatagni, hand-cannoneer with bonus against siege and gunpowder units
• Castle Tech: Advaita: Monks regain faith 80% faster
• Imperial Tech: Shatagni transfers to here, renamed to “Portuguese Matchlocks”.
• Wonder: Gomateshwara Bahubali Statue
• Team Bonus: All military units cost -15% food
• AI Players: Krishnadevaraya, Hakka I, Bukka I, Pulakeshin II, Someshwara, Amoghavarsha, Veera Ballala II

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Elephant Archer: Moves to the Archery Range for all civilisations. Elite version renamed to “Ambari”, costs more to upgrade but fires arrows twice as quickly (ROF 1.0), and probably replace the unit model with Dagnajan.

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Monks: Perhaps a new model with a bun on the head and a typical Indian priest Angavastra, also Sanskrit for all Monks.

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Replacing Existing Campaign Civlisations

• Bukhara: Khorasan = Tatars
• Francisco de Almeida: All = Tamils
• Gajah Mada: All = Tamils
• Suryavarman: All = Tamils
• Bayinnaung: All = Vanga
• Tamerlane: Delhi = Rajput, Delhi Garrison = Rajput, Outlying Villages = Rajput, Shah Tughlaq = Persians
• Prithviraj: Mostly Rajput; appropriate assignment to Persian or Vanga as needed

New Campaign Suggestions

• Vijayanagara: Starting from forging the campaign under Hakka & Bukka through battles against the Sultanates and Kalinga and conquering the south, forging alliances with the Portuguese and other far-flung lands, to ending holding on to the last of the forces and defending Hampi after the king dies, his brother runs away, and half the army switches sides at Talikota and sacks the city. (sort of a Bari-style campaign across centuries).

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Second thoughts about Rajputs: Of course, to also include the Sultanates of Lodis and Tughlaqs among others, we could rename them to Hindustani, and maybe give them a few gunpowder units too, while keeping the Rajput Lancer as the UU. I would probably favour this now.

[Szaladon]

I do think that if they’ll add more South Asian faction, they’ll probably won’t do much else with the Indians civ than renaming it and changing some ruler names like the Chola one which is a bit out of place to the other leaders.

[Kandanat]

This. This suggestion is top class. I really want to see this happen.

[Rowschank]

I had actually planned to make a mod with these and a campaign based on the novel “Ponniyin Selvan” about the Chola power struggle and Rajaraja I’s subsequent ascent to power, but I discovered that I am totally inexperienced at using the Advanced Genie Editor, so here I am

[Kandanat]

Can we find someone who can use the editor?

[Rowschank]

Or maybe some comprehensive tutorial about the AGE and its different fields.

[Kandanat]

I’m willing to wait. I just want these to materialise. I think the listed civs are excellent and necessary.

[Rowschank]

Yeah, that was my thinking too, to concentrate on empires and cultures which had a major impact in the middle ages, rather than simply throwing in ones like Marathas and Sikhs who don’t fit the timeline for the sake of it.

[Kandanat]

Exactly. Marathas and Sikhs would better fit AoE III

[ZippierOwl68631]

Dont forget Gorkhas of Nepal and Ahom dynasty of Assam who were never conquered by invaders, except the British.

[Juggernaut8704]

Tai-Ahoms (the Ahom Dynasty) are not Indians they are part of Tai People from Thailand. Assamese and Ahoms are different people don’t confuse between them. So Ahoms were foreign invaders who were ruling the local Assamese.

About Gorkhas/Nepali, many people are already asking for them instead of Tibetans to avoid censorship from Chinese government.

[Juggernaut8704]

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Tamilar

Voice Set:
Tamil Language

Ruler Names:

“Rajendra Chola I”
"Rajadhiraja Chola I "
“Rajadhiraja Chola I”
“Parantaka Chola I”
“Kulottunga Choladeva”
“Vikkrama Chola”
“Vijayalaya Chola”
“Maravarman Rajasimha I”
“Virarajendra Chola”
“Rama Rajasekhara”
“Rama Kulasekhara”
“Simhavishnu”
“Nandivarman II”
“Rajasimha Pallava”

Padai: Tamil unique infantry unit with high pierce armor. Good against Archers. Trained from Barracks.
(Regiments of the Cholas)

Ratha: Tamil unique chariot unit with area attack jevelin. Good against Massed Infantry. Takes up 2 population. Trained from Castle.
(Part of chola four fold strategy of RathaGajaTuraPadai )

Storage: Store house where villagers can drop off wood, stone and gold.

Unique Techs:

Kadagam: (The military cantonments guards of chola military)

Colandia: (Early chola sea vessel)

Tech Tree:

Karnata

Voice Set:
Kannada Language

Ruler Names:
“Rajaraja Narendra”
“Someshvara I”
“Bijjala II”
“Vikramaditya VI”
“Dantidurga”
“Dhruva Dharavarsha”
“Govinda III”
“Amoghavarsha I”
“Vira Harihara I”
“Deva Raya I”
“Krishnadevaraya”
“Vishnuvardhana”

Polygar: Carnatic unique commander unit that can recruit foot units standing in the battlefield. It has a build limit of 1, trained instantly. Built at Castle.
(Polygars were feudal lords of deccan region)

Kalalu: Carnatic unique infantry unit which can be built from commander unit Polygar. Slight melee armour from infantry due to its small shield.
(Kalalu means infantrymen in Kannada)

Unique Techs:
Chalukya: (Invincible Karnatabala - Chalukya Army)

Bhalaeet: (Skilled deccan spearmen could keep a heavily armed foot soldier at bay.)

Ballista Tower: Tower with a powerful ranged bolt attack. Bolt cuts through massed units. Cannot be garrisoned, takes 2x2 tile.

Tech Tree:

Kalinga

Voice Set:
Odia Language

Ruler Names:
“Kapilendra Deva”
“Purushottama Deva”
“Prataparudra Deva”
“Yayati I”
“Janmejaya I”
“Kalinga Magha”
“Anantavarman Ganga”
“Anangabhima Deva III”
“Tribhuvana Mahadevi I”
“Sivakaradeva I”
“Indravarman I”
“Ananga Bhima Deva II”
“Bhanu Deva IV”
“Narasimha Deva I”

Khandayat: Kalinga unique shock cavalry unit. Very weak against archers, but devastating area attack once it reaches target. Built at Castle.
(Master of khanda(sword), Odia warrior caste)

Imperial Battle Elephant: Kalinga slow and heavy cavalry available at Stable in Imperial Age. Cheaper alternative to War Elephants.

Harbor: Imperial Age upgrade for Dock. Shoots arrows to protect nearby ships.

Unique Techs:

Sadhabas: (Ancient Mariners who set sail far into Southeast Asia syncing with monsoon winds)

Dhenkiyas: (Masked Archers who did different duties in Odia armies)

Tech Tree:

Bangala

Voice Set:
Bengali Language

Ruler Names:
“Dharmapala”
“Devapala”
“Gopala I”
“Nayapala”
“Shurapala”
“Fakhruddin Mubarak Shah”
“Shamsuddin Ilyas Shah”
“Ramapala”
“Vigrahapala III”
“Kalyanachandra”
“Srichandra”
“Traillokyachandra”
“Lakshmana Sena”
“Hemanta Sena”
"Jay Malla "
"Adi Malla "

Bhuiyan: Bengali unique infantry unit. Fast-moving, bonus attack vs buildings. Built at Castle.
(Baro-Bhuyan Confederacies of soldier-landowners in Bengal)

Elephant Archer: Bengali unique mounted archer unit, moving towers. Built at Stable.

Sampans: Small fast-moving boat that fires multiple arrows. Costs only wood. Built at Dock.
(Bengali boats that traverse the dense sundarban delta)

Unique Techs:
Charyapada: (Collection of mystical poems, in the Vajrayana tradition of Buddhism)

Cha-Bagan: (Tea Plantations of Bengal and Assam)

Tech Tree:

Gurjara

Voice Set:
Gujarati Language

Ruler Names:
“Nagabhata II”
“Mihira Bhoja”
“Prithvi-raja III”
“Bappa Rawal”
“Nagabhata I”
“Vatsraja”
“Kakustha”
“Mihira Bhoja”
“Lakshmana”
“Bhoja II”
“Jayasimha”
“Bhima I”
“Durlabharaja”
“Mularaja”

Rajput: Gujjar unique long ranged cavalry archer, 10 elites can be gifted to allies using Purbias research. Built at Castle.
(Warriors of Rajputana)

Desai: Gujjar unique heavy cavalry with high pierce armour available at Imperial Age at Castle.
(Administrators of Gujarat-Malwa region)

Jains: Unique healer recruitable at Town Center after researching Jainism.

Small Farms: 2x2 compact sized farm that produce food equivalent to regular farms.

Unique Techs:
Jainism: (Dharma with tirthankaras guiding every time cycle of the cosmology.)
Purbias: (Rajput Mercenaries working in the gangetic planes.)

Tech Tree:

Dehlavi

Voice Set:
Hindi Language

Ruler Names:
“Iltutmish”
“Babur”
“Humayun”
“Harishchandra”
“Vijaya-chandra”
“Bahlul Khan Lodi”
“Ala-ud-din Khilji”
“Sultan Balban”
“Shamsuddin Iltutmish”
“Jayachandra”
“Muhammad Shah Tughuluq I”
“Govindachandra”

Aamir: Dehlavi unique medium cavalry that costs wood only but returns 25% of its cost in gold when dead.
(Afghan Nobility/loyal mamluk soldiers who served for Delhi)

Imperial Camel Rider: Imperial upgrade to camel rider line.

Chhavni: Cantonment where units can garrison (cavalries as well) to heal health at double speed than other buildings. Garrison limit of 5.
(Chhavni is military cantonments)

Unique Techs:
Charbagh: (Indo-Persian four garden layout.)

Tech Tree:

Persian

(Architecture Set: Central Asian)

Savaran: Heavy slow lancer with +1 range and bonus attack vs elephants. Recruited at Castle
(Persian Cataphract Cavalry)

Anusiya: Persian unique infantry that kills villagers at one hit (spanish included). Recruited at Watch Tower.
(Immortals, irregular infantrymen)

Unique Tech:
Shamshir: (Iconic Indo-Persian curved sword)

Tech Tree:

(Regional Unit):

War Elephant: Available to all the above civs in Siege Workshop.

I have created this medieval indian civs mod. Its complete now.
Waiting for @DodoNotDoDo to help me figure out some issues in uploading the mod into the website.

You can find the mod here: Mods Single - Age of Empires

Thanks to
@CheshireWig3203 for his amazing list of civ bonuses and tech trees which was very useful to pick-up some nice ideas…
@thieftdp8498 for helping me figure out some data modding issues.
@StereoQuasar163 in doing some research and creating 2 of the voice sets.

[Mahazona]

Maybe rename the imp camel to the rajput mercenary name?(forgot the name)

[Juggernaut8704]

That name is already in use, read UT2 of Gurjaras.

[Scintilus]

We do really need an Indian expansion.

[Mahazona]

2 more and sandys count of 8 is complete.finding graphic would be the hard part.

[Juggernaut8704]

My civ choices are mainly based on the tripartite struggle period:

As you can see mainly 3 powers that were fighting among themselves… pratiharas (gurjara), pala (bangala), rashtrakuta (karnata) for the control of kanauj (dehlavi). ganga (kalinga) and chola (tamilar) were independent powers not involved in the struggle.
when the three of them got weak eventually, islamic invasions started, defeated pratiharas (gurjara) and palas/senas (gurjara) in the north and established the delhi sultanate (dehlavi) while imperial cholas (tamilar) started rising in the south defeating the rashtrakutas (karnata) and temporarily vassalizing choda-gangas (kalinga).
delhi sultanate (dehlavi) started rising in north to defeat almost all of india except gajapati (kalinga)
but it soon lost its control to vijayanagar (karnata), mewar (gurjara), bengal sultanate (bangala)

At this point the mughals started entering with gunpowder into india (which is the start of modern era)

there are tons of stories and campaigns that can be made on the history of medieval indian-subcontinent.

[Juggernaut8704]

Uploaded the mod:

(Data):

Mods Single - Age of Empires

(Support):

Mods Single - Age of Empires

[Scintilus]

Hey @Juggernaut8704 is this mod related to your separate indian civ mod? I mean this one is the expansion to it or does it include the civs from the previous mod (Mods Single - Age of Empires) as well?

[Juggernaut8704]

The previous one was just a graphics reskin to the Rise of Rajas civs, this one is a data mod so it introduces new civs with new bonuses, new techs and new UUs. Both are separate mods.