Oh, I meant it in every sense. My point is the same. Regardless of whether or not a developer can do something well, players generally don’t care. I’m not criticising this.
Unless folks are deliberately trying to debate something like a developer, it doesn’t matter to them if something is complicated or not. All that matters is if the game gets it or not. Whatever it is.
All I was saying originally was that we can’t ignore either the competitive side or the single and co-op player side. Do you think a developer has to pick a side (to deliver the best product)? And if so, do you think Age IV can turn it around?
Macuahuitl is amde of obsidian stone, i once found the diary of the secretary of Hernan Cortez on a fleemarket, it’s been a long time since i read it. But if i remember correctly they could cleaver through many things. Also there is the atl-atl, slingers, blowgun.
I think it’s not as you say, the black sea matches very little, instead the French sea is almost perfect, I tried to make comparisons with the maps, but I do not seem to see any point match with the black sea
Can we please stop speculating that any of the seasonal images based on “sea monsters” are somehow related to actual new content?
Not to be too dismissive, but the marketing for this game has been all over the place and far from cohesive. I would bet money on the fact that seasonal art has absolutely nothing to do with any content or anything about the future of this game. It’s just trying to get us excited by appealing to some romanticized version of old school maps that exist nowhere else in the game and have nothing to do with the art style of the game.
The only actual clues we have is the three emoticons and the puzzle that read “Gamescom”. Sure, perhaps it’s reasonable to assume that this will equate to 3 new civs, but there’s a million things these emoticons could apply to.
Camping emoticon: Sure, maybe a nomadic civ. Maybe a civ from a mountainous region. Maybe a civ that is good at turtling and lets you “camp”.
Person rowing a boat: Sure, maybe a naval civ. Maybe a new campaign related to a naval invasion. Maybe just some new water maps.
Firefighter: Sure, maybe a civ with pyro-themed units. Byzantines. Turks. Koreans. Persians. Maybe just one new naval unit shared across several civs (fire ship).
But as I said above, I wouldn’t read very much into any of this simply because:
By the time any new content launches, it will be quarters and quarters after this season and we will long have forgotten the “sea monsters” imagery.
This is AoE4, so let’s be realistic. I think hoping for 3 entirely new civs is far fetched. If I had to speculate, I would say we are maybe getting 1 new civ (Byzantines or Turks) that maybe come with a campaign and, finally, we’ll get a few new water maps. I also think it’s unlikely that any of this launches until Q4 or maybe even next year. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s priced at over $30 either.
This, thank you. Fool me once… I paid for the game but unless they really do something about the core game, this is where my money stops going their way. It was fun for a while, but no way Jose I’m buying more civs while the rest of the game remains intact.
BTW, Relic already teased some rework of water combat, so I would put my money at the rowing emoji being just that. I already lost all capacity to get hyped.
The new civ maybe after wololo tournament or in season 4. Bring new civs now it will be a suicide for balance and not good a the door of biggest tournament ever
It would be reasonable to assume Relic is contracted for at least one DLC. Assuming that to be true, it would further be reasonable to assume that contract calls for the DLC to arrive by the end of 2022.
Otherwise AoE4 would be the only Age game in 25 years to fail to release a new civ within a year of launch. That’s not exactly the stuff of success.
I expect the real financial stress test of the game will take place at that point. Everyone knew AoE4 would sell plenty of units at launch based on the incredibly loyal fanbase comprising five separate communities that were all excited for this extremely hyped sequel that we had all been anticipating for almost 10 years. The sales at launch have got to be in large part a reflection of 25 years of goodwill.
But the DLC will be a reflection on whether the players actually like AoE4 itself. I bet Relic’s contract renewal will be determined at that time.
This reminds me a lot of the situation the AoEO devs were staring at in the summer of 2012 – they were doing anything they could think of to keep the lights on.
I bet that if AoE4’s DLC flounders, Adam and the WE gang will refocus their efforts on the next title and Relic will refocus on its own games.
You’re right, you can ban the new civilization but the fact remains that this would take away resources from a good balance of the game itself. Now they are at a good point, but adding new civilizations, which are very asymmetrical, could lead to new exploits or unexpected bugs. Which at this point in the season could be deleterious. The new civ for me will be before the Christmas holidays
It’s already confirmed that want to call them Danes unless they changed their mind, which I think is unlikely.
Exactly. It’s basically like shrapnel when it hits plate amour.
Aztec armour was designed to prevent that, Spanish armour wasn’t.
But AoE4 is not a simulation anyway. It’s not even a Total War.
Siege engines need a little more then 2 seconds to set up in real life.
Why is exactly that Native Americans what makes all those people so angry that want the game to be historic?
You’d probably all love to see half naked Viking Berserkers with double the HP of an MAA.
Oh? Interesting. Maybe I should have played the Rus campaign. Do they just exist as a label or do they also have some units like the one unique one the Danes have.
You think they would make a campaign only DLC with no new civilisation?
They would be multiplayer civs plus their respective campaigns… and spi, the European civs are very seen… also when The Warchiefs came out in 2006, they were three native civs (Aztecs, Iroquois and Sioux)…
and the puzzle that read “Gamescom”. Sure, perhaps it’s reasonable to assume that this will equate to 3 new civs, but there’s a million things these emoticons could apply to.