Aren’t the Hausa islamic as well?
fwiw barbary states (or repurpose as morocco) is already in the game via historical battles, and wouldnt be too hard to add as a 2nd civ for another pack
like persia/barbary states can be released as “shahs and scoundrals” pack and then flesh out parts of african and asia
could throw some love for natives in india, afghanistan, africa as well
just thinking outloud it could work
edit: shahs was censored. really bot?
Yes, but this civ already has its own numerous unique features that fit it perfectly.
In the case of Africa, I believe that “Arab” civs such as Egyptians, Moroccans and Berbers are closer to each other in general terms than to other nations south of the Sahara.
I assume the devs are busy remastering AoM.
Correct, it is assumed that a large part of the developers went to work at the AOMR, so I think it is very unlikely that we will get more civilizations.
Good idea, that would give developers more creative freedom and make it easier for them to create new civilizations.
If we are lucky and the developers decide to make more civilizations, perhaps your idea will be very useful to them.
PS: I still think that European, Native and Asian civilizations need to abandon their old Age UP system and update to one similar to that of the United States and Mexico.
The Germans and Indians would benefit greatly from that.
I would like maps and natives of Oceania
An idea:
“Unions of the North”
Add the Poland-Lithuanian Commonwealth and Denmark/Norway. With each age up you choose between unlocking a new unit from one of the two parts of your alliance. Combat cards improve both units, sometimes in different ways. Could be fun, I think Wars of Liberty had something like this. Also, Poland would be a cav cciv and we could use more of those.
Both civs would start with a few base units, some unique, others standard.
Rough Draft Poland:
Receives a Winged Hussar with each Shipment starting in age 2. A unique stable very slowly spawns Winged Hussars for free. Infantry is weaker and cheaper and trains slightly faster (note, the numbers are probably more like 15% weaker, 17.5% cheaper and train like 20% faster). Units are unlocked with each age up.
Base units: Rekut, Crossbowmen, Winged Hussars (Heavy Cavalry with a high speed, low Hitpoints, a high attack and good range armor), and Lipka Tartars (A mounted Skirm, good against light cavalry and Heavy Infantry, but with a high rate of fire, low damage, 15 range and countered by Skirms) and standard European artillery.
In age 2: Choose between two heavy cavalry units that you can train (winged Hussars cannot be trained normally).
In age 3: Choose between two Ranged Light Cavalry units (possibly Dragoons and Cavalry Archers, they could be made more unique by cards).
In age 4 & 5: not sure.
It’s a rough idea, but could be interesting. The 1 Winged Hussar with each shipment is a more age 2 oriented version of the German civ bonus (since it doesn’t scale as much, though WH probably do shadow tech). Shipments would probably cost more. I’d do something interesting and give Poland 7 starting vills but no vill shipments. Instead you get a wood or coin trickle. Portugal gets 7 vills but gets free TCs, Poland’s eco bonuses are free Winged Hussars and the extra vill, that’s it. The unique stables have a build limit.
Pretty much since we got Mexico my personal dream next civ has been Brazil…
I really like how the US and Mexico play and I would kill for a new postcolonial South American civ to round out the collection. Gran Columbia would be cool but I think Brasil is the real goal
I’m not a huge fan of Poland or Denmark tbh, it’s all more of the same. I don’t really get excited about new Euro civs at all. Africa and the Middle East and South Asia are all interesting, but for me AoE 3 is still at its best set in the Americas
And of course obviously it’s my job to also shill for Australia. A Brasil DLC that also added pacific maps/natives and an Australian revolution would be my ultimate dream. No idea how you’d group that themetically. “Southern Shores?” lol
Hey
My Suggestions are for new Civilizations are KOREAN AFGAN , INDINESIA , AND YES FOR EUROPA those 2 are fine Poland .
What if I told you, bear with me for a moment… what if I told you there were a civ that gets not one, but two! Yes you read it right, two free unique cavalry units with each shipment starting in Commerce age and that they also unlock units with each age up?
What’s even better yet! You can play it right now!
It’s called Germans, try it out
There is literally Sweden, Malta, Italy in the game but no Hungary? Only as a revolution? Really?
Hungary was mostly controlled by Ottomans or Germans.
Sweden were a very powerful nation during the 17th and early 18th century, Italian states brought the Renaissance to Europe, the Republic of Venice and the various Italian explorers in the new world and err, Malta, you got me there.
The Hungarians unfortunately were just part of the Hapsburg’s Empire for pretty much the AoE3 time frame (although famously brought Hussars into pretty much all Euro nations’ cavalry rosters). Of course throughout there were rebellions before leading finally to a revolution.
Because Hungary didn’t matter much in the time frame of AoE 3. They were just part of the Habsburg Empire and later the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Part of Hungary was occupied by the Ottoman Empire for some time.
They could be better represented by making the Hungarian revolution option more attractive. Potentially, splitting the Germans civ into two separate civs (Austrians civ and Prussians civ) could give some Hungarian royalist content (for Austrians civ of course).
“Because Hungary didn’t matter much in the time frame of AoE 3.”
Excuse me, what is the name of the melee cavalry used by nearly every europen civilization? oh yeah, HUSSAR, every hussar corp in every european army INCLUDING the polish one, is founded by a hungarian, even the US hussars. The famouse “polish hussar” armour is the hungarian hussar armour they wore before it became unneeded.
Austro-what empire? Hungary vastly overpopulated austria, after they got broken by the Hungarian resistance, the only thing that saved them was their Russian allies, that they later lost. Furthermore the game takes place in the time period from 1492 - 1889 or even later if you take the US and Mexico into account, Italy was created in 1871, before that there was no italy, the whole idea of the country was created by napoleon, so they would be easier to rule, before that, there were city states. The incan empire was destroyed in 1572, While hungary still retained large parts of its lands up to 1700. Hungarian Count ##### András conquered Berlin, in 1756 while Frederic the “great” was unable to react. All the while the oh so relevant prussia became a glorified speedbump between east and west europe after napoleon handed them their asses. in 1807
“Hungary was mostly controlled by Ottomans or Germans.”
did you learn history on netflix? Hungary was NEVER controlled by germans. Only a third was conquered by Turks after hundreds of years of fighting.
Hungary was one of the earliest renaissance countries in 1400s that is the reason of the green in the Hungarian flag. Italy didn’t even exist, they didn’t want to unite until Napoleon started to give out this idea for political reasons. First mention of a united true italy is from 1871. The game is 1492 - 1889 if you take Meiji Restoration as the end, but since it puts you in V it can even be later. The Habsburg empire only briefly controlled hungary in this period. as they only took control of the entire country after “helping” to get rid of the Turks when the ottomans weakened in 1700 and then lost control in 1848, they lost the war against hungary, and only the russians could defeat the hungarians, resulting in them being forced to create the Astro-Hungarian Empire, where they became a minority. so 140 years out of the 397 the game takes place but can be more. Compared to the incans who wher destroyed in 60 years after the discovery of america, The aztec that lasted 30 years, Hungary is the oldest continously existing country in Europe. Many countries added to the game 1 didn’t even exist at the time period, 2 wasn’t really releveant in the time period like Hausa? Incans? India didn’t exist either, as it was a colony, china was a half colony, japan was isolated and had 1400s technology with matchlock muskets. As a single US battleship forced them to surrender. Basically more than half of the added civilizations are worse in the critics hungary gets, yet added and somehow more powerful than the european ones. Looking at japan here.
pleas tell me where you find an independent Hungary.
hungary was pretty interesting in the 1400s, unfortunately this is a 1500s and onwards game.
yeah they where, what do you think the austrian empire was?
Hungary de facto seized to be a state afer the battle of Mohacs in 1526. like it or not hungary was not a great power in early modern time.
i dont know how you can possibly look at sweden in the early modern periode and say hungary deserves to be in the game over them.
a more accurate time periode would be 1492-1876 with some extras, we dont see 1880s tech in the game.
good thing italy isnt a faction, italians is, which include venice, milan, the papal-states and savoy. if we really go with this argument ill argue that Venice alone is more important than hungary in the periode.
i think you need to chill with your nationalism and accept that what you are talking about is the austrian crown and people working under the austrian crown, which, yes, included some hungarians. states in the early modern periode weren’t really nationstates as we understand them today, in fact you can argue this is a game about the formation of the modern nationstate.
Prussia isn’t a faction either so what does this have to do with anything?
His posts sound like Hungarian nationalism which ignore simple historical facts…
No? You don’t need Netflix to realize that Hungary wasn’t independent in most of AoE3’s timeline, which is why it’s an Ottoman and German revolution option.
PS: You want Hungarians as a civ? Go ask on AoE4 forums since they perfectly fit there even more than Sengoku Japanese.
The Westphalian state system was a mistake.