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The Aztecs refered to the armadillo as “ayotochtli” which roughly translates to turtle rabbit. I don’t know much about Aztec mythology to know the significance they had in their culture/mythos but I’m almost certain the devs will give us insight soon. The myth unit in question could also have some aspects be based on the glyptodon whuch was an extinct genus of giant armadilos that once thrived in South America.


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The Aztecs had no form/history of calvery as horses weren’t present in Mesoamerica until they were introduced when the Spanish invaded. The Aztecs percieved conquistadors riding ontop horse was some sort of unholy chimera or as one indivual creature, as not only have they never seen horses until that moment, but a person riding ontop another animal was unheard of. The Egyptian pantheon in this game as well as the OG game was heavily inspired by pop culture and took many creative liberties outside of traditional Egyptian mythology. I believe the same can be said about the Aztec Pantheon and the devs might have to take creative liberties when creating calvary units as not only to preserve game balance, but since Aztecs in terms of recorded history and mythology had no such thing.

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I suppose it also distorts the mechanics that the Aztecs have had in Age of Empires II and III, where they lack mounted units and use fast infantry as a substitute for cavalry.

That guy seems… inca?

They should add Aztec mole riders and Godzilla, why not?)) They could also add Martian aliens. This is a fantastic game… And the saddest part is that there will be people who will be happy about it. This game is falling into the abyss.

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The developers couldn’t even handle the eagle warrior model. I understand that the screenshots show eagle warriors(Guys in white), but what are they wearing on their heads? It’s a strange-shaped hat, but where is the eagle-shaped helmet? It’s unclear… If it’s that difficult, they could have used solutions from the Age of Empires game, both visually and in terms of fighting against cavalry.

No, its not a gliptodon.

I’m an armadillo fan, so I can tell you, it’s a REAL armadillo, with all the normal characteristics of an armadillo: the nose, its short legs, its band, and well, its armor. Sure, it’s a mythological version, hence its large size and symbols, but it is an armadillo, yeah, with the size of a Gliptodon.

On another note, it’s interesting that they called it “Ayotochtli”. Nine-banded armadillos are very common in Mexico, and well, given its shape, it’s understandable that they thought it was a hybrid of a rabbit and a turtle, specially for the long hears.

In fact, the funny thing is that more than a chimera animal for the Aztecs, it was one for the Spanish, LOL!!!

As I understand it, many Spaniards liked the armadillo, but others considered it a frightening mythological animal and drew it in a monstrous way, as if promoting it as a chimera of a turtle and a hedgehog.

Documental en español sobre el Ayotochtli, y porque no, ya que es una civ azteca (VIVA MEXICO!!!)


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I believe the female jaguar rider is a Cihuateteo, whose appearance doesn’t really evoke them, but it’s the only thing that comes close to the concept of a warrior woman.

The owl is tlacatecolotl (from the Nahuatl words tlacatl “man” and tecolotl “owl”) is a sinister figure in Mexica sorcery, known as the “owl-man” . Even is represented in some codex,

The unit tat you named macuahuilt is a shorn warrior in its base form, Tlaimaltepoztli is coyolt priest warrior

Sigo creyendo que la explicación aun asi es insuficiente para incluirlo y que sigue siendo bastante ridiculo lo del armadillo y el escorpion, espero que este ultimo realmente solo sea un poder o algo de la campaña.

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The mounted female figure on the jaguar must be absolutely removed for this reason.

There are no records of people riding animals in Aztec culture at all; it’s seems a wrong and rushed out choice once again.

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Yes, or Poseidon… and that Tezcatlipoca is the antagonist god of the campaign who uses Atlantean and Norse allies to dominate the world…We’ll probably play as Quetzalcoatl going in search of Tezcatlipoca across the sea (and the underworld, obviously), facing Atlanteans and Norse, while on the other side we’ll play as Huitzilopochtli founding Tenochtitlan in 1325 and expanding southwards, facing Mayans (and Incas?) and even Chinese, like in the AoE 3 campaign…

Yes, they’re a good idea for giving the Aztecs cavalry, even if it’s a bit of a historical farce… but in AoM they do allow these cool, outlandish things…:sweat_smile:

Yes, anyway, we have to wait, we still need to see more images, we’re missing half of the human and mythical units…

The armadillo is an animal found further north in Aridoamerica (southern United States and northern Mexico), which, according to the Aztecs, was Aztlan until it was destroyed, and from there they moved south until they reached Lake Texcoco where they founded Tenochtitlan in 1325…

Yes, it’s a Sapa Inca and it’s a nod to the upcoming Inca DLC at the end of the year…

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Hmm that’s a good idea now that you mention it. They could make a monster verse civ. Have the three major gods be Godzilla, Mechagodzilla and King Ghidorah. I’m thinking one of the mythic age godpowers for Godzilla will be a nuke that instantly destroys your enemies making you win the game. What other cool ideas do you have? Maybe you could expand on that martian civ idea?

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Does anyone know if some of the Devs are the guys behind Return of the Gods Mod? Because the MUs look uncannily like what was in the mod. If not, I hope they at least compensate them in some way for their ideas (intellectual property).

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Anything is possible…remember that FE is always in contact with the modders of the saga, since they come from that world…

That looks kinda Inca indeed. I don’t think Aztecs used halberds like that, did they?

I wouldn’t be surprised of the next civ is the Inca. It seem like they are doing similar settings in pairs. Chinese + Japanese, now Aztecs + Inca and then Celts + Slavs?

Yes, it makes sense that they want to continue including 2 pantheons per continent per year…Chinese-Japanese last year and now Aztecs-Incas…next year it will be Celts-Slavs or Babylonians/Persians and Persians/Indians…Celts, Babylonians, Persians and Indians are already in AoE Online and Slavs would basically be the Rus from AoE 4…

The guy who made the mod was hired by dev team as they were impressed by his work and they’re working on this expansion. Many things were most likely brought over such as myth units and minor gods, as well as god powers

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Ah, that explains everything…

There was no history of female warriers in Egytpian mythos/culture yet Amanura exists. Hell, there was gonna be a general who rides a hippo that was gonna be Amanura’s general but he was scrapped. The majority of the characters in the both OG campaigns are fictional. Namely Arkantos, Kastor, Khemsyt, Gargarensis, Kamos, etc.