exactly,in fact I think that the unique European buildings would be the basilica (the Italian version of the mountain monastery) (for the Italians),the folwark (mill and estate that gives 10 of pob) (for the Poles) and the shipyard (create and repair ships faster than the port) and the borg (I explain below what it does) (for the Danes)…Italy would go up with the Italian city-states,Poland with the Electors and Denmark with great illustrious Danish people…Italy would have unique units,the architect (builds buildings but does not collect resources),the merchant (that collects resources but does not build buildings),the elmeti and the Genoese crossbowman (among others),Poland the winged hussar and leitis (among others) and Denmark can create German,Dutch and Polish mercenary units from the borg (fort in Danish),which also acts as a bar (jaegers,lanquenetes,ruyters and leitis)…
i guess that Borg wouldn’t be entirely besides the faction since Denmark did have a few quiet important fortresses (like Kronborg, Rendsborg and Fredriksten in Europe and several more in the colonial territories like Tranquebar and Christiansborg) not to mention that Copenhagen itself was a pretty formidable fortress.
but i also would hope the faction still gets unique unit, here in my priority listing:
Priority 1. (things i think are central to the faction and should be included)
Landsoldat/landmilits - unique musketeer with bad melee stats esp vs cav.
Skarpskytte/jæger/ski infanteri - unique skirmisher
Fodgarden/livgarden til fods - unique grenadiers (perhaps musketeer with a charge grenade attack? just an idea)
kanonbåd - frontfiring rowboat with a cannon, not to far away from what they just added with the africans. replaces caravels.
Priority 2. (would be nice to have some of these, but aren’t necessary)
Skruefregat - a steam powered frigate using a screw for propulsion, important because the last line battle in history was Danish screw frigates vs German ships. replace frigate
Livgarden til hest/gardehusar - a high hp melee cavalry unit with armor and sabers.
Jysk dragonregiment/Jyllænder/let dragon - unique dragoon, idk good melee and high hp but more cost?
Priority 3. (really dont think they are needed but if one wants to make the faction as unique as possible)
Linjeskib - litterally ship of the line, the sort used in the 1600s. replaces galleon.
Espigol - the in between of an organ gun and a militariuese, rapid fire small caliber “artillery”.
artilleriskib - either a bomb ketch or a mid 1800s ironclad monitor, replaced current monitor
but anyhow that would be the units i would love to see.
Maybe you meant the version of the church? Because building an Italian basilica over a gold mine doesn’t make much sense.
Maybe it’s enaugh that the standard vills build slower, AND the architect can at least gather from crates.
Elmeti are the mercenary corresponding of spanish lancers, so you are basically giving them lancers.
Because there are 5 European powers from that period, not just 3
there is only 3 they will add, because the others are germans.
But they are powerful and key in those days.
Germans civ very poorly represent Prussia and Austro-Hungary which would be great and interesting civs without any problems. The Germans civs are based on HRE, not Austro-Hungarians and Prussians because you can’t put it all in one civ - especially those three civs!
I think that the devs, weren’t sure on what civ to use among Austrians, prussians and the HRE, and for that they added a civ that included all three of them.
Anyway, in my humble opinion, those cultures are already represented, even if they aren’t that accurate, so the priority should go to other civs, either eurpean or not.
I like it,I didn’t know the names of Danish units well…
No,it would be like the monastery of the mountain,since when you built it would generate coins like the Dutch bank,but it could create cardinals that increase the production and recollection of the units…
I would prefer that they keep what they had in idea ES about the Italians…just as Project Celeste did with the Romans of AoE Online…
that is obviously also completely fair, i wrote the name in Danish so i wouldn’t expect many to know the names. i think internationally the most famous are ski infanteri and livgarden (which still operates today, usually as shock infantry).
What idea you are referring at?
First you have no idea how those civs would play if they even get added so you have no idea if they are going to be great.
Second, Italians are European, meaning they have to follow the European design style, which is boring as ■■■■. We dont need more Euro civs and in general I feel like we dont need more civs, maybe 1-2 max, but really, more civs isnt going to add any value to the game when half of the civs arent used.
For me, every civ is fun to play so I don’t care about what civs are played on the competitive level. Almost all civs are level 40 and above in my game.
What would you add to the game to draw people in? I think Morocco is gonna be the next civ, btw. I look forward to playing them.
I think a Historical battles DLC could be an option.
The one I mentioned above about italians…
I’d love all 3 but voted persians cuz GATLING CAMELS
No ok, I get it, but of what idea you are referring to? What sources do you have?
From what I know, those are the Italians designed but the NE and WoL mods, not an original design from the original aoe3 plan to introduce the Italians.
As I understand from Sandy Peterson that they wanted to make Italians as they appear in Napoleonic Era,with two types of villagers but without the theme of city states,which like the states of the Union,can give a lot of replayability…
Ah ok, I didn’t know that.
Do you have a link for the source of Sandy Peterson saying that? Not because I don’t believe you, I’m just curious to see it.
I’m not against that per se, but I don’t like the thing that you depend on 1 or 2 units for all your buildings.
The merchants should at least be able to build, even at half the speed.
never heard about a Napoleonic era Italians planned. according to the wiki:
" * Italian units were mostly “medieval” compared to other civilizations, much like the Ottomans and Spanish."