As a Swiss player, I want it to be an American DLC featuring Tarascans and Chimu or an African DLC featuring Songhay, Swahili and Nubians but I’m not getting my hopes up as I’ve been disappointed too many times already.
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Italy will never be completed. We need all the hundreds of the city states including Papal State.
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Phoenix is however the codename of the basegame.
We already have rome for papacy sicilians for napels italians for genoa so only 3 main once left.
I can’t be optimistic anymore.
They have been using aoe2 for dumpstering their shit. A classic DLC would be a shocker to me.
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I guess it is ‘Return of Alexander the Great and Macedonia’. I will be ok unless they use recycled materials again as main content of the DLC.
What? They are like 3 centuries apart.
How can he return when he didn’t even arrive?
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One lowElo ranked player votes for no new civs. i’d much rather see more unique-ness added to existing civs.
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Appear In aoe1 de campaign and return in aoe2? Why so serious?
“I’ve come” - Subutai, 1999
“I’ve returned” - Alexander, 2025
I hope more american civilizations, like mapuches or zapotec. Or maybe some Chinese DLC
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I hope it’s a balkan DLC with the finally, finally, rework of the name Slavs into Ruthenians or Rus.
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That’s not going to happen in the current climate.
After shameful behaviour from they in the case of dlc to AOE 3 DE i lost my intentions to buy next Dlc’s to AOE 2. Manipulating people is disgusting.
Teutons is another name for Germans.
See
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In game Romans represent the Western Roman Empire, not the city of Rome; even less, the Papal States
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not entirely correct.
The word Teutons refers to a specific North Germanic tribe and was rarely used in reference to the whole of Germany.
In the Middle Ages there were 2 large German states:
State of the Teutonic Order 1226-1561 was the only Crusader state on European soil and is represented in the game by the Teutons and was only in northern Germany.
The most important state was the Holy Roman Empire of the
German Nation (800-1806) which still had many small states such as Württenberg, Bavaria, Prussia, Austria, and also ruled parts of Italy. Although it was divided by many principalities, it was at least theoretically the most powerful state of its time. This empire is not represented in the game.
I’m not sure if a pair of small states should come in. On the one hand, for example, we already have a French principality in Burgundy (Burgundy was inherited by the French crown), but on the other hand that would be too many. The Holy Roman Empire of the
I would like to see German Nation, but also many other great nations of this time.
and before that comes up: The Western Roman Empire and the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation were two completely different nations
The Teutons represent the Holy Roman Empire, The whole first scenario of the Teuton Campaign is about the foundation of the Holy Roman Empire. Teuton [“Teutsch”] is an old-fashioned way of saying something is German (see here). They do not only represent the Teutonic Order.
See also their History description:
Charlemagne’s empire has fallen, and the task of rebuilding the Holy Roman Empire lies in your hands. Unite the feuding duchies, contend with Papal authority, and construct powerful crenellated fortifications! Smash enemy armies with potent knights and demolish their cities with armored siege engines, or lead your men on crusade to the Holy Land or into Eastern Europe. The Teuton unique unit is the Teutonic Knight, a zealous warrior who can carve most melee units into ribbons.
https://www.forgottenempires.net/age-of-empires-ii-definitive-edition/civilizations/teutons
We also got by the way already two HRE splits in the form of Burgundians and Bohemians; two provinces of an empire turned into fully fleshed civs.
I do not want to delve further into this topic as this has been discussed several times with no fruitful result in this forum here.
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This is true. However, does this mean that Spanish speakers don’t call Germany Alemania?
Or that there wasn’t a Regnun Teutonicum?
Edit: as Szaladon said, this has beed discussed ad nauseam, so I will disengage now
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Its a crusader state not a people group like the other civis goths teutons franks etc.
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