Is that the Kotyan Khan campaign you’re talking about?
Yes the cuman campaign.
yes, but only two of those scenarios are actually about the running through europe.
1 scenario to prepare for the battle of the kalka river
1 scenario for the battle of the kalka river
2 scenarios running away from the mongols
1 scenario to settle in a new land
5 scenarios of cumans running away from mongols would be too samey.
So too would 5 or 6 scenarios of the two invasions likely be too samey
I think you need at least one scenario at the beginning that doesn’t have anything directly to do with the invasions, and probably another scenario in between the invasions.
The problem isn’t how to create 5 or 6 scenarios based on the two invasions, but rather the invasions should probably only be 3 or 4 scenarios so what ELSE should those other 2 or 3 scenarios cover, how do they work with the invasion scenarios to provide a cohesive narrative, not be ahistorical, provide varied gameplay with presumably generally increasing scope as the campaign proceeds.
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Well, the islands of Iki and Tsushima were both invaded. Those could be another two.
But that’s during the invasions.
scenarios covering parts of the invasions don’t well satisfy the requirement of scenarios that don’t directly cover the invasions.
Why? What purpose does that have?
The invasion scenarios should feel big. We want some time to grow in the scope of the scenarios and narratively build toward the big invasion scenarios.
having at least one scenario before the mongol invasion starts, allows you to have that smaller scenario, without cheapening a centerpiece invasion scenario that you want to feel big. It also would allow you to establish the setting and the characters.
You don’t start the mongol campaign with “Into China”. You have two scenarios before that to establish the setting, develop the characters, and to build in scope of the scenarios.
I’ve done some more research on tokimune, and while I still don’t have the clearest idea what the non-invasion scenarios would be like, I think the campaign should be something like the following.
Scenario 1, this would probably be just before toimune ascends to shikken (regent of the shogun). Masamura, tokimune’s great-great uncle I think, is shikken, and tokimune is rensho (assistant to the shikken). There seems to be some business about overthrowing/deposing the shogun during that time. Seems like the hojo put the shoguns son on the throne as a puppet. This scenario could establish the political situation of the time, why the hojo decided to do this (presumably those values would be thematically relevant for the later defense against the invasions) establish tokimune and masamura as characters and their relationship to each other. Allow for a smaller scale scenario. IDK exactly what the gameplay would be like.
Scenario 2, masamura in poor health has to step down as shikken. tokimune and masamura switch, tokimune is now shikken and masamura is now rensho. shortly after tokimune’s ascession, the mongols send emissaries, and tokimune knows an invasion is coming. some prepare for invasion scenario, masamura is very supportive of tokimune thru this time. However shortly before the mongol invasion, masamura dies, and the young tokimune has to face the invasion without masamura.
scenario 3, first invasion, a big scenario but we don’t go super big. like a 7-8 on a 1-10 scale in terms of scope. You defeat the mongols, but you know a second and larger invasion is coming.
scenario 4, step back in scope a bit and cover something inbetween the invasions and allow the characters and the player to stew in their juices about a huge upcoming invasion. not the foggiest idea what that’d be.
scenario 5-6, GO ALL OUT covering the second invasion. outro to sixth scenario tells us tokimune died shortly after the second invasion, but japan is never invaded again (well ww2, bu tthat doesn’t really count for aoe2)
At the end of the day, I see a Japanese campaign as very unlikely, especially now.
V&V and DLC 5 were uploaded at the same time, meaning they were worked on in-tandem/with respect to each other’s content. So why would we get a DLC with such a heavy focus on Japan (V&V) and then another one right afterwards?
It would make more sense to focus on civs that were not going to be the focus afterwards.
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Because there are weebs everywhere.
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East Asia (Africa too) is definitely a region that has more than 2 possible civs. I would be a little disappointed if they only added, lets say Tibetans and Jurchen, but not Nanzhao or Tanguts.
Burgundians, Sicilians and Romans were too much already. There is no reason why the Italian peninsula has 3 civs.
I hope they are brave enough to include Tibetans. A new Chinese architecture set would also be welcomed.
20 new achievements?? I guess 3 new civs then.
Jurchens are obvious
Tibetans too if they are brave enough
3rd could be either Khitans, Tanguts, Nanzhao, Gokturks or Sogdians.
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I’ll be bold and say Lithuanians too. Had devs added Poles on TLK instead of them, I don’t think we would see them or Bohemians right after another European DLC. DotD was introduced solely because Poles deserved the inclusion.
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we’re already theorizing 44 new achievements. achievement_319 was added about two weeks ago.
Assuming the new total will be 319 achievements, that’s 44 new achievements.
What was odd about what game planet showed, is not only were twelve achievement_319, numbered from 0 to 11, but eight achievement_315, numbered from 24 to 31.
nah Lithuania was more relevant than a lot of civs in Europe, I was shocked when I saw how big it was on the map.
then give me Tibetans, Tanguts, Jurchens, Nanzhao, Khitans and Gokturks 
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Don’t worry, Tibetans are no danger of getting the game banned or anything in China.
The fact that they nearly made it in twice hopefully means that the devs will put them in at this opportunity to do so. They are one of (if not the) biggest empires from the Middle Ages that are not included, and their presence had ramifications far beyond their borders.
That image you posted was of the AoE2 Achievements? That’s…odd that they are different to the ones on steam.
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Having a look at Game Planet, things get even weirder. There are TONS of hidden achievements there, but randomly placed in groups within the list.
16 positioned between LotW and DotD
21 positioned between DotD and DoI
36 positioned between the free ones they added for Xbox players and RoR
20 positioned between Mountain Royals and V&V
Then a final one at the end.
I have…no idea what any of this means.
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can you link it?
some word so i have 20 characters
I think some of the hidden ones are actually duplicates of achievements that were hidden before release of various DLC packs.
Not 100% sure though, as while some numbers match up, the last ones do not quite fit. But otherwise it does look like a bit of false alarm.
Weird, DLC with a little s was censored.
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Why do you have to be so rude?
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yeah. I suppose I didn’t mention that explicitly. Here’s the link to the page.
Pretty sure those are just the achievements that were added for those DLCs.
They added the hidden achievement to the list, and then added the actual achievement on release, but never removed the “hidden” version.
Those make sense to me.
yeah IDK about those.
It’s the 20 at the end, the achievement_315_(24-31) and achievement_319_(0-11) that are the odd ones to me.