New surprise DLC on 25th anniversary?

[AlphaCreator727]

@Quasibrodo

, but perhaps it is true that FE lacks the requisite capabilities to adequately execute projects that don’t adhere to the old formula for which they have far more experience

After what they did with AoM Retold? Do you still don’t trust on FE?
I cannot think in any other team who can do a better job with this game than them.

[HestiaAoE]

@AlphaCreator727

I cannot think in any other team who can do a better job

They are a myth to me. I thought the same when AoE2 DE was launched. It was jaw-droppingly good. Highly detailed yet highly recognizable graphics, tons of QoL features, ranked ladder etc.

But later they felt like a completely different team. Constantly introducing new bugs, and failing to fix them, yet claiming to have fixed them sometimes. Questionable decisions, like ugly menu UI and DLCs no one asked for.

How can you be the same person who made S tier product then constantly making garbage?

[Apocalypso4826]

@HestiaAoE

I thought the same when AoE2 DE was launched. It was jaw-droppingly good.

Not for me. It was extremely buggy with a ton of graphical errors. Granted, I only played around with the collapse animations in the Scenario Editor, but given those did not function properly, I was turned off for months.

[Quasibrodo]

@AlphaCreator727

After what they did with AoM Retold? Do you still don’t trust on FE?

They have lots of experience re-mastering aoe games. This example could not possibly have less relevance to the point I was making.

[SMUM15236]

@Apocalypso4826

Were you thinking about a shore fish replacement?

Yeah. That will be nice. We have box turtle as a shore fish. Duck can also be a “Shore Fish” just like pigs are “Sheep” in this game. 11

[WhiteMagick4]

Just kidding mate.

20 characters.

[TommoChocolate]

@Tyranno13

Well we don’t know what that actually entailed. Do they mean multiple DLCs a year? Do they mean we might be getting two more after V&V? Who knows; we don’t know what the actual plan was or is.

Yes, it’s very vague and obviously we don’t know – it just seems (to me) a very odd thing to say if you have six months of silence planned.

@SirWiedreich

this will be one of those heartwarming reveals that the real Christmas presence is not material or virtual goods, but the friends that we made along the way™

The real Christmas presents are the Gargarensis alt accounts that have trolled us along the way.

@Darkness01101

probabaly 30+ civs

Pedantic point: I count only 14 civs added with DE and its DLCs. (Admittedly that is still a lot – more than the original Age of Kings had.

[MUTYLATOR5553]

@PeakHornet46539

Yaks, Tapirs, dogs, black bears, chickens, giraffes, ducks and hippos too.

ZOO Tycoon DLC

(20 characters)

[Tyranno13]

@TommoChocolate

Yes, it’s very vague and obviously we don’t know – it just seems (to me) a very odd thing to say if you have six months of silence planned.

Perhaps they didn’t plan to stop the balance updates?

[BASEDTeuton]

@TommoChocolate

Maybe it’s just me, but does anyone else find the tone of this message really weird? As if they’re significantly underestimating the age of their audience?

The part where it says “so to the extent that you enjoy and support Victors and vanquished” gives off a bad vibe.

It feels like they know the DLC wouldn’t be well received, but are condescendingly trying to guilt players into supporting it or buying it or else they will cut support for the game.

[Tyranno13]

@BASEDTeuton

It feels like they know the DLC wouldn’t be well received

I mean, high price, recycled free content…not exactly going to take a genius to figure that out.

[MatM1996]

@Quasibrodo

V&V, single player only content, isn’t intrinsically bad idea, but it really seems like the creation of V&V was a last minute panic moment, and they cobbled something together as fast as they could from spare parts. No wonder it didn’t pan out.

So on one hand I want to say that they needn’t go back to formula cause it wasn’t a formula problem but an execution problem, but perhaps it is true that FE lacks the requisite capabilities to adequately execute projects that don’t adhere to the old formula for which they have far more experience.

Yes, I agree… it’s normal that things went badly for them with those DLCs because they were outside the normal regional DLCs they had been making…

@Darkness01101

This is why I would like in the next DLC: more things graphically, new/more dynamic FX, new map objects and features, day/evening options, some weather stuff, new gaia/plant/water stuff, more player color options, and similar things. It will update the overall game and enhance the experience for everyone at once, with the new flavors being possible on any and all maps, some or a lot of it selectable in the lobby and options screens. The re-introduction of an offline/LAN/IP connection option would be cool, too.

Yes, I strongly agree with this… I would like to see AoE 2 maps evolve to be like those in AoE 3, even if that could be controversial with regards to redibility…

@SMUM15236

I think this DLC will have both Aoe2 and Aoe1 content. Aoe2 will contents will be go back to the formula - 2new civs + 3 new campaign. And maybe 2 new civs + 2 new campaigns + rest of the remaining campaigns for ROR. Does that explain 44 achievement?

Yes, I agree… I think that at some point they will include the other AoE 1 campaigns in RoR… I see a RoR 2 in 2027-2028 as probable…

[Mahazona]

@PeakHornet46539

Yaks, Tapirs, dogs, black bears, chickens, giraffes, ducks and hippos too.

Adding to the list peacocks pandas polar bears rain deers donkeys and elks.

[Darkness01101]

@TommoChocolate

Pedantic point: I count only 14 civs added with DE and its DLCs. (Admittedly that is still a lot – more than the original Age of Kings had.

Sorry, I meant since AoK   
No worries on pedantic. I appreciate the detail, and don’t think it’s pedantic. I didn’t state very clearly

[PeakHornet46539]

Oh yes also placeable bulls without the carts attached, dogs and lionesses too. The tigers, bears and lions are so small compared to the wolves. Also bison.

[SMUM15236]

Is this a hint for regional villager skins??? The eye emoji seem like a hint to me.

Age of Empires

[MUTYLATOR5553]

No panties

I doubt this is a clue.

[Tyranno13]

@MUTYLATOR5553

I doubt this is a clue.

Same. Either way, certainly not a gameplay one. I doubt we will be able to click a button to ask the male villagers to strip to make them faster.

[TommoChocolate]

@Tyranno13

Perhaps they didn’t plan to stop the balance updates?

Maybe, or they planned an event or something. Your guess is as good as mine.

@BASEDTeuton

The part where it says “so to the extent that you enjoy and support Victors and vanquished” gives off a bad vibe.

It feels like they know the DLC wouldn’t be well received, but are condescendingly trying to guilt players into supporting it or buying it or else they will cut support for the game.

Yeah, it’s not great wording.

[Temudhun]

The Full Monty dlc confirmed!