What about this?
Is this able to show you that Chinese still strong?
Cuz 1300-1399 is mid range for most players
Chinese even got 51%
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This is Only Elo where Chinese have above 50 % across all Elo it’s 43% winrate. Stop cherry picking.
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It’s proof that Chinese is not unplayable like you guys said.
1300-1399 is average elo for most player
So, Stop crying and go learn how to play game without sick playstyle
The current problem of the Chinese is clear, that is, AGE2 and AGE3 have no gain. The Chinese gain must enter the Dynasty with a double price. This patch is of course no problem with Chinese weakening, but the premise is to enhance Chinese AGE2 and AGE3.
Your speech has no meaning. Subjective, with emotions, deliberately misleading. That taste is too acid.
It’s a proof you shouldn’t speak about balance as clearly you have no idea what you’re talking about
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It was you guys trying to proof Chinese weak by data, and now you got decent data and just tell its meaning less LOL
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You call your "data"proof ? Stop embarrassing yourself
Stop posting your 1300 Elo statistic it’s pathetic. This is a winrate with all Elo lvls. It’s 43% Are you trolling or you have a reading disorder ?
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You can of course express your opinion. But what is “toxic”? What is “removal”? This is what you use.
This is the most relevant elo rating out there and it speaks for itself.
Reason why 1300 elo is at 51% is simple. Those chinese mains that previously were 1500-1900 got dropped to that elo rating due civ bein unviable and now are winning against much weaker opponents with their skill
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You mind giving a source on that image? Because I’m looking at the pre-patch data on aoe4 world for 1v1, where the highest winrate for China I see is 48.7% at >1300 elo.
Any winrate data with HRE in second place is pretty obviously wrong. Nice job cherrypicking data. Meanwhile if you look at the data for >1200 elo, >1300 elo, >1400 elo >1500 elo, and >1600 elo. pre-patch you see China with winrates hovering between 46-48%, 4th to 6th highest winrate.
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lol, you call cherrypicking a 100 range in the elo rating decent data?
Here are the data for >1300 which include your data range:
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stop fake news .
that old patch have 10,000 match.
new patch have 4.500 match.
Hello. Dev,
More toxic player at discussion.
fake news at discussion.
Anti Chinese at discussion.
My English isn’t that good.
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So I have scanned this ongoing N4C tournament roughly, out of 173 games (only count the one showing the result), China was picked 9 times (out of 346 picks, so the current pick rate is 2.6 %), winning 2 games out of 9
2 games from Round of 24
- Kasva (china) Won vs. Don Artie (abbasids)
- IamMagic (china) lose vs. DemonSheep (delhi)
2 games from Round of 48
- Leenock (china) Won vs. State (delhi)
- RobbyG (china) lose vs. Beastyqt (rus)
5 games from Round of 96
- Donato (china) lose vs. StriKeR (HRE)
- HAX (china) lose vs. TheSniper_AOE (England)
- KosdaBence (china) lose vs. Vodka_L_ (abbasids)
- HungADC (china) lose vs. IamMagic (mongol)
- Cyclops (china) lose vs. bruh (dehli)
No china picked above to round of 24. The win rate of China at the current stage is 22.2 %
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Thanks for gathering this information. Its important to not just look at winrates (which obviously show there are glaring balance problems, see Mongol winrate and Chinese winrate) but its just as important to look at pick rate. Because the players are not stupid. We instantly know Chinese is trash tier now upon seeing these patchnotes. Sure you can try some stuff, but the raw stat nerfs are just too much. Its not like Chinese has access to special units in Age 2 like Rus, French or English. And Age 3 has issues since the Nest of Bee is so much worse than the Mangonel. So players are not even picking this civ anymore. The few players who still pick Chinese however must be very good with this civ. Which means they are already working that much harder to win than other players.
Tl;DR: We have tournament stats and player stats to back up that Chinese is trash tier now. The next patch can’t come soon enough.
Also how about bugfixing Nest of Bees? This unit has been bugged since Stress test and its still not fixed!
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Very nice. Job well done.
I checked the tanza tournament or what ever it was called and china won mirror games so no surprise but mostly always lost against any other civ. Even BeastyQT lost at finals with china.
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and MarineLord only lost one game in final when using China lol