There really should be a separate category for Islamic civs like Persia, Oman, Morocco, Uzbeks, Kazakhs, etc. Not all of them are Asian, and the steppe peoples may not have a lot of wonders.
The current design of wonders could also use a rework if they’re going to add new Asian civs. They should be reskinned as more generic landmarks instead of specific famous architecture.
I agree - never made sense for a forward base/colony/new settlement of an Asian civ to make it’s one of a kind Wonders despite them already existing within the respective civ.
HC cards that reference the famous wonder by way of name, should be a thing instead (whether a ‘named’ card focuses on the generic wonder linked to it or if it’s a shipment thats for something totally different - that’s a different topic).
Wonders can unfortunately be the limiter to adding more Asian civs. Removing this mechanic is not an option, but improving it would be a good thing. Creating a brand new category of civs for Islamic nations would free Middle Eastern and Central Asian nations from the TAD DLC assumptions.
Civilizations like Siamese, Burmese, Korean, Vietnamese, Dravidians etc would have to be mechanically similar to civs like Chinese, Japanese and Indian (which should become Mughal civs) to keep Asian civs coherent - besides from those countries you can easily find a variety of buildings that can become Wonders.
Islamic civs, due to their distinct separateness and uniqueness, as well as their presence at the tripoint of Europe, Africa and Asia, deserve their own category in AoE 3. Ottomans civ are currently the only representative of this civilization circle (Hausa are Muslims, but above all they are African civs). The Ottoman civ got unique units to replace the ones shared with the European civs, so I guess that was a little preview that the developers were working on something in that area. I would be tempted to make the Ottomans civ even more unique - to get them reworked and become representatives of the Islamic category of civs. Below I will present my proposal for the rework of the Ottomans civ and in a moment it would be a simple representation of what Islamic civs could look like:
Also, I think Ottomans and Persians civs should get a unique type of Home City cards - “x Loyalist Army” e.g. Caucasus Loyalist Army, Mesopotamian Loyalist Army, Steppe Loyalist Army and Balkan Loyalist Army. These cards would be sent by a group consisting of 2-3 different units from a given region. In this way, nations such as Dagestanis, Chechens, Azerbaijanis, Kurds, etc. could be represented.
Of course, I’m in favor of adding brand new Asian Minor Civilizations as well, because Asian Holy Sites just works as a universal map add-on (since it already does that for African and American maps).
You guys have a lot of good ideas. I created a Persian Civ that had some of them. I havent updated the visuals yet, but if you guys have any ideas for improving it id love to hear it.
Extra Civs - Persia
A unique Library building sound great.
I would say that Minerets probably should not be military-linked as they were just towers to ‘broadcast’ the call to prayer - some sort of eco benefit/bonus to Villagers would fit better thematically. Also Minerets were either built on the side of religious buildings or built very close-by - with that in mind, we could also explore some kind of either modular or aura type of mechanic for the Minerets. Maybe building them close to a Mosque as further benefits?
I wanted to edit my topic and add some new pictures to it but i noticed its not possible any more (maybe because its old topic)
Here are some persian flag bearers - officers - skins - etc
I hope you enjoy :
Wow, I did not know they had Cossacks soldiers!
Its good but it needs some changes
Specially its pants & hat
Top of his hat is flat, he looks like ottoman nizam infantry
Also Toufangchi is a wrong word, its Tofangchi
I don’t think you can do much about the pants. Maaaybe if the unit is based off the Zouave. Sepoy comes closer, but the TAD units are dumb and have the hats fused to the head.
For the hat, you’ll have to model a custom one.
Ah, and use Janissary anims for the sword.
It needs sepoys pants with white color
Please update <3 would love to see it more refined
I will get to it soon, probably after the patch drops just to make sure that doesnt break it. I’va also been away the last few weeks. Cheers!
