yellow army in official trailer speak Persian and fight against India!!!
No.
There are an Abbaside Dynasty, an muslic civ, seems like Saracens from AoE 2
And this is a confirmed info, check on the official page
They should give us more infos about the Abbasids, and what language they will speak, if not Arabic it will be not just wrong history, it will be a disrespect to all Arabs and also fake history, the reason I say that is because I didnât understand what Abbasids said in the video and it does not look like Arabic, if they put some random Turkish/Persian NPCs or specific Turkish unit, it will be ok but the majority should speak Arabic, because after all it is an Arabic Civ and should represent the Arabs and in the end of its period the Mamluk take control but still it was under the name of the Abbasids and most of the population and soldiers were Arabs), and I am sure they will add Turkish and Persian Civs later on as DLC.
Are u just speculating that they speak Persian? because they are Arabs and should speak Arabic
ok iam arab and i didnt hear any arab word xD ⊠and i dont think its persian too so i really dont know wtf was that xD
Yeah indeed, I am Arab too, and couldnât understand a word which makes me concerned, but it could be Arabic and due to the video effects we couldnât understand it.
yes maybe thats whats happend âŠ
im from iran and they are speaking modern persian
delhi sultanate speaks persian (info from civ description)
If this is true I will wonder what they are smoking actually , even if they opened Wikipedia it said the official language was Arabic. I hope this voice line was for Delhi sultanate because they said they will speak Persian otherwise I wonât buy this game that create fake history.
I hope the voice line was from delhi sultanate, but there was a voice in 38 second while they were showing an Abbasids town and there werenât Delhi units, but I hope you are right and those voices were for Delhi
The question is which Persian dynasty they should do? It shouldnât be based around Sassanians like in AOE2 because that is antiquity and not medieval. Maybe Safavids but that goes til the 18th century so possibly too late. Something around the Samanian and Saffarid dynasties and their theme could be Persian revival. It would also be a good civ considering the Abbasids are there too as they are contemporary to each other.
the thing that REALLY confuses me is the meaning of the persian voice line
the first voice line is:
âshotor savar amadasâ ( ŰŽŰȘ۱ ŰłÙۧ۱ ŰąÙ
ۧۯ۳)
which translates into:
âcamel rider is readyâ
and as the abbassids civ description says, camels are unique to abbassids, soooo⊠im just hoping its a mercenary unit situation, but then again why would abbassids acquire persian camel rider mercenaries when arabs are famous for usage of thier local camels in their army?!
the most likely scenario which im hoping theyâre not going with it but everything is pointing at it is, as the developers said all of the civs in aoe4 have different languages throughout the ages ( take the English for example, in age 1 they speak original english (before the norman conquest) which is not understandable for us, and by age 4 they will talk modern english)
so there is a chance that they are using the persian language as one of the abbasids language in one of their ages. which is really absurd
but i canât see any other reason why would camel riders of abbassids speak persian
itâd really be a slap in the face for us persians, to use our language for a foreign dynasty that conquered our country and iâm pretty sure arabs donât like that too
itâs like using chinese language for mongols because they conquered china! doesnât make any sense lol
im iranian and i can confirm those were persian voice lines
first one translates into: âcamel rider is readyâ
second one was hard to understand, i only understood 2 words of it and im guessing the meaning of that sentence is something along the lines of âwhatâs your ordersâ
Thanks for the infos, it is much appreciated, but unfortunately it increases my concerns, if they went that route then obviously they are making fake history for some reasons!
And their is still some acceptable senario that very few NPCs speak Persian and Turkish, but the majority will speak Arabic, but then why in their reveal trailer they spoke Persian!! they really need to explain this mess .
Finally as you said this will only make Arabs and Iranians angry.
Hi Skadidesu unfortunately it wasnât an editing error as you said, I am afraid that the Abbasids now are just another name of Persian or maybe the new Persians and later on they could transform to Turkish Mamluks, and of course Arabs are just a myth for Microsoft and Relics
im pretty sure thatâs not the case abbassids are an arab dynasty and there is no way anyone could deny that. worst case scenario is that when you advance to age 3 or 4, abbassids start talking turkish or persian, or thereâll be some turkish or persian voice lines mixed in their language
It makes all the sense in multilingual empires. Or did persians stopped speaking persian when they were part of the caliphate?
In the persian Achaemenid Empire lots of regional languages were spoken: babylonian, greek, egyptian, sumerian ⊠If a soldier represent troops from a specific region that had another language (because it was conquered, or whatever the reason), it should speak that language, not the language of the kingâs court.
persian language got butchered for sure, arabs ruled over persia for about 200 years,burned persian books and forced their language to persians. modern persian language (farsi) has ALOT of borrowed words from arabic
fun fact, even the word âfarsiâ is kinda arabic, the original word is âparsiâ but since arabs dont have the letter âpâ in their language, they started calling it farsi for 200 years, and to this day even us iranians call it farsi xD
i totally understand your point and agree with it
but it seems weird to choose the camel rider as a persian soldier, but then again im not a historian so maybe it is correct
Even this is a really a bad thing, like the golden age is when there is no Arabs left? actually the Abbasids golden age was before they being destroyed by the Mongols, and how it will considered Arabic if you only play just 1 or maybe 2 ages as Arabs, unfortunately this is pure destroying of history my friend.